08/28 - Tart Tuesday!

[turkleton]

What sucks is, there are a lot of people who probably don't even realize that it is against Amazon's TOS, those are the people I feel sorry for.

Eh, I think it's mostly just people looking for the quickest and easiest method to make money. They were done in by greed.

 

[Jerami]

@Jaded is the plague. Without her and her forums (along with other people), I would have quit turking ages ago. What a life that would have been...

Ikr. Remember that place we used to go? What did they call it? Outside! Yeah! It had all those other turker... I mean, people moving about it. Man, that place was big! Could you imagine drawing a bounding box around that thing?!

 

[turkleton]

Right, and I understand that completely. I'm just viewing it from Amazon's side. Anyone using MTurk has the ToS readily accessible to them, and I think that's what they're going to tell anyone who contacts them about their suspension. Like it or not.. Amazon decided captchas are the best way to prevent bots from doing HITs or whatever.. trying to force past that is only going to hurt you.

It doesn't even matter really, they already give masters to bad workers, so its not like whether you doing captchas or not proves you're doing good work.

 

[Metallica]

It doesn't even matter really, they already give masters to bad workers, so its not like whether you doing captchas are not proves you're doing good work.

Hey now, I never claimed Amazon makes good decisions

 

[Jharkan]

Right, and I understand that completely. I'm just viewing it from Amazon's side. Anyone using MTurk has the ToS readily accessible to them, and I think that's what they're going to tell anyone who contacts them about their suspension. Like it or not.. Amazon decided captchas are the best way to prevent bots from doing HITs or whatever.. trying to force past that is only going to hurt you.

the only time a captcha used to bother me, back when they were regular, was when they prevented a hitcatcher/pandacrazy type program from grabbing something.

other than getting captcha'd on pandacrazy, it was never really a problem

 

[mboone73]

Eh, I think it's mostly just people looking for the quickest and easiest method to make money.

Um, who isn't?

 

[turkleton]

Hey now, I never claimed Amazon makes good decisions

IDK I kind of feel like Amazon is partly responsible for creating an environment where this kind of thing would even seem necessary. We shouldn't have to use scripts and such just to make a decent living off of it.

 

[turkleton]

Um, who isn't?

Yeah, but I mean, how many people trying that end up in jail?

 

[ecko]

Right, and I understand that completely. I'm just viewing it from Amazon's side. Anyone using MTurk has the ToS readily accessible to them, and I think that's what they're going to tell anyone who contacts them about their suspension. Like it or not.. Amazon decided captchas are the best way to prevent bots from doing HITs or whatever.. trying to force past that is only going to hurt you.

I agree, Amazon is doing exactly what we all know they will do in these situations. Personally I think the developer had an obligation to do at least a little research to make sure what he is putting out into the world functions properly, and violating the TOS of the site it was made for is definitely a malfunction. I know he fixed it but it should have never been there in the first place.

 

[Metallica]

IDK I kind of feel like Amazon is partly responsible for creating an environment where this kind of thing would even seem necessary. We shouldn't have to use scripts and such just to make a decent living off of it.

I'm with you Amazon has had over a decade to do something like that though.. I think we're pretty much stuck dealing with this shit at this point. MTurk could be so much more if someone competent was behind the wheel.

 

[turkleton]

Like, baseball bans steroids. But if they didn't, then everyone would be using steroids. And the sport would be ten times more interesting to watch.

 

[mboone73]

IDK I kind of feel like Amazon is partly responsible for creating an environment where this kind of thing would even seem necessary. We shouldn't have to use scripts and such just to make a decent living off of it.

They don't make money from workers. They couldn't care less how much we make from it.

 

[turkleton]

They don't make money from workers. They couldn't care less how much we make from it.

Yeah, but what if no one did any HITs?

 

[turkleton]

@Metallica, can you get James Hetfield to sue Amazon for me?

 

[Persephone78]

Yeah, but what is no one did any HITs?

Strike!

No. This would never work.

 

[JDWFM]

@Jeff Bezos, can I have a million dollars? All these bots are taking my money.

Someone asked me at work what I would say if I got to meet Jeff Bezos. My immediate response was "Jeff, can I have a million dollars?"

 

[Metallica]

@Metallica, can you get James Hetfield to sue Amazon for me?

Tell Amazon to pirate some of their music, and I'll do that for you.

 

[C to the J]

Like, baseball bans steroids. But if they didn't, then everyone would be using steroids. And the sport would be ten times more interesting to watch.

We need to focus on making safe steroids and then pumping everyone up with them.
We can have the 80s back damnit. We just have to try.

@scrmcasey

 

[turkleton]

Someone asked me at work what I would say if I got to meet Jeff Bezos. My immediate response was "Jeff, can I have a million dollars?"

Mine would be, "Mr. Bezos, I just found out that I'm your son."

 

[mboone73]

Yeah, but what if no one did any HITs?

I'd settle for if no one did hits that pay less than minimum wage.