01/25 - Function Friday!

[CrazyCatLady]

We're going to Wynne to finally do Christmas with Gina's family.
Our new vehicle shipped out like a month late and the old van was a death trap.

That sounds like fun! Picked a good weekend. Looks like it's going to be in the 50s!

 

[CrazyCatLady]

So is there ANY way to get PC to work from HIT Finder links? I'm so tired of the extra work of copying the link and manually adding the job, but I prefer PC to the alternatives.

I haven't. It's why I was using hit forker with PC.

 

[greg]

That's strange, I got a code for that one.

Straight up broke for me. Just uploading the screen shot of the error message and sending it to the requester (and hoping for the best)

 

[Theta Carinae]

That's strange, I got a code for that one.

Same.

Straight up broke for me. Just uploading the screen shot of the error message and sending it to the requester (and hoping for the best)

That should be fine, it's fairly unusual for requesters to not be chill about that kind of thing. Especially when you can show them proof of what happened.

 

[Srndpty]

@Theta Carinae @Mr_AvocadoMan

Hahaha....after all that.....it was.....ready for it?

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[ChrisTurk]

Jesus man, Vietnam flashbacks all over the place.

Also... Besmirching the name of the (dearly departed) good doctor I see lol

Title: Marking objects and relations in images (new!). Bonuses for good work! On average $10/hour. | PANDA Requester: Stanford University [AALPOIWHC4JFR] (Contact) TV: [Hrly: $86.96] [Pay: 4.98] [Fast: 5.00] [Comm: null] [Rej: 0] [ToS: 0] [Blk: 0] Reward: $10.00

Another bit of proof of straight up scamming, TV hourly shows that the average person using TV(I don't) submitted a HIT that took me almost 100 minutes(I did way more than was required), in 6.99 minutes. Can't wait til they don't want to do them anymore when he rejects a shitload and they don't look so shiny to people.

Please, please pardon me if I followed the quote chain incorrectly, but the only two reviews for this HIT on TV took 35 minutes & an hour respectively. It's a little rude to be calling @PeachyRider a scammer for being faster than you --- don't we generally dislike those kinds of judgments made solely on completion time as workers?

For the other HITs on that profile --- I know almost every single one of those workers. I'd vouch for them as strongly as I'd vouch for my own work. Many of them report bonuses for good work including another longtime MTC'er ( @scrmcasey ) who also got a bonus for good work despite the HIT paying $100/hr already.

If I've followed the conversation correctly, I hope this is simply misreading how the website works because absolutely no one reported doing that HIT in 7 minutes. Please be careful suggesting a requester utilize account blocks if this is the case. That's dangerous. If I'm completely wrong & you've found issues w/ a different profile on TV please do send them my way.

In any case if I can help explain how TV's website functions or provide more clarity on the website I'd be happy to look into it. Even if I have followed the chain incorrectly, the idea that someone would look at a completion time on TV & hop right to "scammer" is pretty odd without extra context on the website? It'd be helpful to add that to the conversation since I do check the site for data quality issues but I've checked the workflow of quite a few TV "speedsters" myself and generally $/hr is the result of incredible ingenuity not malicious action.

That Requester in particular has an inflated average hourly because their original HITs in November were MUCH faster than the one quoted above. I understand if that's misleding & the root of the "7 minute" completion time guess, but the website displays breakdowns by HIT so users can get more accurate information on a per-record basis, it should be easily seen on the right hand side (or at the bottom for smaller viewports).

It's also really important to keep in mind that TV's script is not infallible, and many workers will just quickly throw their times into the pot without double checking that they are accurate which can often lead to situations where they end up reporting the HIT took them 1/10th the time it actually did (or 100x the actual time if they went AFK w/o pausing the timer).

Generally it is way safer to assume my coding is at fault for oddities in data on TV than user maliciousness. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I know some folks take shortcuts I personally wouldn't, but I'd defend a requester from a worker screaming "SCAMMER" & I'd most definitely go to bat for 90% of the people reporting times on that profile as well.

 

[C to the J]

Also... Besmirching the name of the (dearly departed) good doctor I see lol

PE: $1295.00 all day, every day.

 

[Sarcasmologist]

... my PE is 2.95..

i got hella sidetracked by some people on facebook getting upset over a comment I made on a picture... what a waste of my precious time... now money me!!! please and thanks

 

[ChrisTurk]

PE: $1295.00 all day, every day.

All Pis too, naturally, despite them only sitting up for 5 minutes & being 5c/pop

 

[C to the J]

... my PE is 2.95..

i got hella sidetracked by some people on facebook getting upset over a comment I made on a picture... what a waste of my precious time... now money me!!! please and thanks

I'm a throw a match and walk away type of Facebook poster.

Say something controversial on the comment section on something and then don't check it for 2 days.

 

[lolkatB]

I'm a throw a match and walk away type of Facebook poster.

Say something controversial on the comment section on something and then don't check it for 2 days.

Isn't watching the flames burn everything down part of the fun?

 

[Theta Carinae]

uh this was a looot of text but

If I've followed the conversation correctly, I hope this is simply misreading how the website works because absolutely no one reported doing that HIT in 7 minutes.

Who's no one? No one on your forum? No one using the script?
In any case: how do you know for sure?

I also might have misread something, but I didn't think Jerami was suggesting that anything about TV was at fault. Just that he helped a requester deal with scammers. :uhoh:

 

[Sarcasmologist]

I'm a throw a match and walk away type of Facebook poster.

Say something controversial on the comment section on something and then don't check it for 2 days.

lol.. i made the comment yesterday... the last time I took back what I said was probably 2005 so, nice try internet...

 

[Theta Carinae]

wasn't someone asking about this earlier?

Title: List features of objects | PANDA Requester: Barense Lab [A3KV4W9IAM75W7] (Req TV): $35.56/hr/hr (TO): [Pay: N/A] [Fair: N/A] [Comm: N/A] [Fast: N/A] Description: Given objects, asked to list (up to) 15 features of each (45-60 minutes) Time: 1 hour(s) 30 minutes(s) HITs Available: 1 Reward: $8.33 Qualifications: None;

 

[C to the J]

wasn't someone asking about this earlier?

Title: List features of objects | PANDA Requester: Barense Lab [A3KV4W9IAM75W7] (Req TV): $35.56/hr/hr (TO): [Pay: N/A] [Fair: N/A] [Comm: N/A] [Fast: N/A] Description: Given objects, asked to list (up to) 15 features of each (45-60 minutes) Time: 1 hour(s) 30 minutes(s) HITs Available: 1 Reward: $8.33 Qualifications: None;

Don't have to list the full fifteen. Some it's impossible.
Obviously they'll reject without an honest effort.
I did 8-10 or so on each.
Took me ~15 min but I'm a fast typer/thinker.

Approved this morning.

 

[greg]

This came up in my news feed, if the HITs are drying up for you and you want to read a crazy story of Russian espionage in the US

 

[Michele]

Title: Picture and Memory Tasks(~ 15 minutes) | Accept Requester: S. Stone [A2I40LQQMUHGFL] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: [Pay=5.00] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=5.00] [Reviews=2] [ToS=0] TO2: No Reviews Reward: 1.50 Duration: 45:00 Available: 1 Description: Complete a memory task, picture task, and short survey Qualifications: Total approved HITs LessThanOrEqualTo 500000; Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 100; Exc: [1792109923-125502] DoesNotExist ; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 97; Location In US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[ChrisTurk]

I also might have misread something, but I didn't think Jerami was suggesting that anything about TV was at fault

Perhaps. When I read a fully formed sentence that begins with "proof of scamming" and then quotes data from a source, I take it to mean the data quoted is proof of scamming. Very difficult for me to break that down any other way, but it is the Internet and none of us want to record all our posts w/ tone+inflection

Just hope my post clears that up then either way :thumbup:

 

[CrazyCatLady]

I'm a throw a match and walk away type of Facebook poster.

Say something controversial on the comment section on something and then don't check it for 2 days.

This is what I do.
I unfollow the post and turn off notifications for it LOL

 

[Michele]

This was 5 minutes for me, but still worth it at $11.98/hr and instant approval

Title: Brief survey following a short story(~ 1 minutes) | Accept Requester: Martin Seehuus [ADZQTTJKKHAWO] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: [Pay=4.15] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=5.00] [Fair=5.00] [Reviews=21] [ToS=2] TO2: [Hrly=15.00] [Pen=null] [Res=null] [Rec=null] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=0] Reward: 1.00 Duration: 30:00 Available: 4 Description: Brief survey after reading a short story Qualifications: TP Panel: 821169920 N GreaterThanOrEqualTo 100; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 90; Location In US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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