09/28 - Wark Wednesday!

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I don't think it's an issue of different forums wanting different pay or having different ideas of what good pay is. It's a matter of each member on each forum having hundreds of different opinions of what good pay is. Maybe the 20 or so of us right here right now agree on what it means, but there are tons of other members on this forum and on other forums who are happy to work for 5 or 10 cents a minute because they just do this while watching TV or screwing around in the evening and have no interest or desire to tell requesters to pay more.

Besides that, the best researchers can tell, only 20-30% of turkers even have heard of forums or use them. Even if you got every single forum-using turker to boycott a requester, you'd still have 70-80% of turkers out there to do the HITs.
Not only that... but who are you going to use as the gold standard for the hourly rate when determining what good pay is? Me? Jaded @Jaded? Kerek @Kerek? @AvatarlessNewbWhoStartedTurkingLastWeek?

And who is that fair to? Is it fair to the requester to have to balance their pay around the slowest mofo's on mturk when they are going to have veteran turkers tearing through their batches? Is it fair to the workforce to balance pay around me or Kadauchi @Kadauchi? Where do you get those metrics from?

And then... who is qualified to represent me? How do we decide that and at what point did I agree to be represented by a social forum I joined?
 

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Also as a heads up, if you get the PRE inside the HIT frame you can reload the frame and submit the HIT.

neat little trick I figured out like, last week.
That's something I've wondered for awhile (and maybe someone has answered before). If you fill a hit out, try to submit it and get hit with a PRE, will it submit filled out if you refresh the frame/tab/window or does it submit a blank hit?
 

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Does anyone have any motivation they'd be willing to send to me..
I had decent motivation earlier, since my net was out all day yesterday and I was pissed at losing a work day, but all the surveys today have drained my motivation near entirely.

Also I want to give that sad kitty a hug.
 
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Title: Evaluate and Ad(~ 3 minutes) | PANDA
Requester: Richie L. Liu [A1FO8K23UVKOLP] (TO)
TO Ratings:

☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Communicativity
☭☭☭☭☭ 3.42 Generosity
☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Fairness
☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Promptness
Number of Reviews: 23
(Submit a new TO rating for this requester)

Description: Evaluate and Ad
Time: 10 minutes
Hits Available: 1
Reward: $0.20
Qualifications: Total approved HITs is not less than 50; HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 95; Location is one of: US
 

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That's something I've wondered for awhile (and maybe someone has answered before). If you fill a hit out, try to submit it and get hit with a PRE, will it submit filled out if you refresh the frame/tab/window or does it submit a blank hit?
It submits normally. If you do it in Firefox it will ask for a resubmission confirmation. In Chrome it just goes.
 

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There's also a possible false dichotomy between them paying $4 an hour and paying $12 an hour with the only difference being that they're mean. It's a question of how much it's worth to them, which limits what they can pay. Digging through the images probably doesn't provide them much value, so they can't pay much for it.

And the new, higher rates mean every requester is paying less (or charging their customers/clients more, which is effectively the same thing in the long run).
Their parent entity is a billion-dollar company according to Wikipedia/earnings reports. I'm leaning towards yeeeeeeeah they just don't want to pay a reasonable rate for the work.
 
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Their parent entity is a billion-dollar company according to Wikipedia/earnings reports. I'm leaning towards yeeeeeeeah they just don't want to pay a reasonable rate for the work.
I don't know what that means. Should they pay their janitors ten times more than other companies because their revenues are higher?
 
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