Hey everyone. I appreciate everyone's perspective on this. I honestly do. Thanks for all the replies and long personal posts. But, since I started this thread, is there any way to close it? Maybe with the help of
Part of the reason I created this thread was to move my response to
's OP in the 'Daily' to the Forum Discussion area where any long comment on my view of what was going on and why there may be less donation going on. I'm glad we've got to hear from everyone from pretty much ever different "demographic", from just Contributing Members, to HIT Posters, Past "Staff", Volunteers with no obligated responsibility who help because they want to make the place better, like Mentors and even Requesters.
Now, I feel what needs to be said, has been said.
This is an interesting discussion, though I'm not sure it will get us anywhere. It is nice to hear different people's viewpoints on the matter.
You're absolutely right. It was interesting but, wasn't really meant to go anywhere. It's great that we got to hear about what people felt happened.
But, I'm afraid if we start to get everyone's view we're going to get everyone restating what we all know has happened and we've heard it from every side. I just don't want it to devolve into multiple pages of everyone paraphrasing how the staff, failed, or quit, or let us, or themselves down with varying degrees of respect(which are fine but, could always come out worse) for the effort and situations that were going on behind the scenes. I also don't want it to turn into a "what's wrong with this forum" thread, which it hasn't but, easily could. I don't want it to get into a comparison of this site to sites that I have no real interest in and haven't visited because people look for different things in a forum and, what may suck for you, may be great for Bugakingz.
Anyway, Right now, this thread is great and I'm not complaining about anything that's been posted. But, I don't want it to be a big list of negative stuff, over again when I felt that it's all been covered.
If anyone who needs to get it out, want to start a "What I didn't like about this forum" Thread, please feel free. If you need help, I'm happy to.
Much better, if anyone wants to start a, "what I can do to make it better thread" I'm even more happy to help, as I feel it would be much more productive.
Also, really when I started this thread, I was kinda just trying to point out that ChristopherASA's original post, which I quoted, should really have been in the Forum Discussion area and, if I was going to respond to it, I wanted to move it here so I wasn't part of the problem, while I was talking about the problem of miscategorized posts(different from shitposts) and how the disorganization can make the forum less effective, making the forum less effective and people less likely to donate.(In short saying, "Christopher, lets move this over here so we can be an example rather than part of the problem because these things snowball."
Now, lastly, I am going to say that, if nobody will/can help me close this one, since we've all figured out what happened and written it here, and if people do need to continue with the direction the thread has taken, I'm not going to say please, I'm going to say be very respectful. As much as we can refer to groups of people, and the group identity has no emotions, those groups are made up very hard working very hard working people.
Like all people, they do their best. They get tired. They make mistakes and decisions that turn out wrong, like all of us. And nobody needs their mistakes pointed out multiple times, in print, in many different ways, over and over again, from person after person. Even though what any one person says may not be very bad, in total, they can be discouraging, overwhelming, it's just plain mean and can come off as bullying, to be given a thumbs down by lots of people. Nobody in this thread has done anything wrong. Don't take it as if you have. I just feel we've said everything and none of it needs to be repeated
@jan said she's gonna help. Thanks for everyone's input. It was all valid. I hope to see you in the, "What can we do to help make it better" thread.
Hve a good day!