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If someone spies on me all they're going to hear is me talking to my animals, the computer, sometimes the corners of the wall or doorknobs when I run into them, and singing very loudly and offkey.
Kind of off topic but, a lot of people find trying to protect their information, overwhelming, to say the least. Also, they're trying to "protect" information that is already leaked. Mostly, all you can do at this point is decide how you are going to mitigate any damage from said info getting out, going forward. There's an easy way, a hard way and an unconventional, yet easy and effective way of dealing with this. You could try to remove the info from the web. Good luck.(hard) You could use a service and/or stay vigilant about any future activity associated with any of your meta data.(easier) Or, what I like to do, is ruin their data.
A piece of incorrect information is much more harmful to an algorithm than a piece of missing data. Not only do I provide them with incorrect data by clicking to sites I normally never would, entering wrong data in dropdowns and 'boxes' and my favourite, 'Like' absolutely everything that they suggest for you. It only takes about a half day to 'break' an algorithm. You'll start seeing the results pretty quickly. First, your ads and suggestions will not really make sense. Then, they will go 'Bizarro'! They will have nothing to do with you, or each other. This won't cut down on how much they spy on you but, it will decrease it's effectiveness.
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The solutions job for 50 c all approved.. Def leaving a good review for that requestor.
 
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Kind of off topic but, a lot of people find trying to protect their information, overwhelming, to say the least. Also, they're trying to "protect" information that is already leaked. Mostly, all you can do at this point is decide how you are going to mitigate any damage from said info getting out, going forward. There's an easy way, a hard way and an unconventional, yet easy and effective way of dealing with this. You could try to remove the info from the web. Good luck.(hard) You could use a service and/or stay vigilant about any future activity associated with any of your meta data.(easier) Or, what I like to do, is ruin their data.
A piece of incorrect information is much more harmful to an algorithm than a piece of missing data. Not only do I provide them with incorrect data by clicking to sites I normally never would, entering wrong data in dropdowns and 'boxes' and my favourite, 'Like' absolutely everything that they suggest for you. It only takes about a half day to 'break' an algorithm. You'll start seeing the results pretty quickly. First, your ads and suggestions will not really make sense. Then, they will go 'Bizarro'! They will have nothing to do with you, or each other. This won't cut down on how much they spy on you but, it will decrease it's effectiveness.
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I feel like Jerami @Jerami is dropping attention checks today and I'm failing every single one.
 

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No you don't, lol. :tinfoil: Probably best to start dealing with the things we know are 'spying' on us, before we start guessing at what could be spying on us. :p Plus, if you were truly worried, you could open it, or just build a tiny Faraday cage around it.
Well sure, you don't actually have to. But I do think it is a good idea to have some skepticism toward something that could be spying on you.

Just look at facebook. People always used to give me a hard time for not having one. I would tell them I don't really want to be providing a bunch of data for facebook to be building a database on me. And they would laugh and call me a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut weirdo. Now lately all this stuff comes out, and those same people are completely shocked and outraged that facebook is invading their privacy.

But if you are cool with plugging in a mystery listening box from some rando on mturk and not even wondering about whether it could be listening to you or not, then by all means.
 

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Well sure, you don't actually have to. But I do think it is a good idea to have some skepticism toward something that could be spying on you.

Just look at facebook. People always used to give me a hard time for not having one. I would tell them I don't really want to be providing a bunch of data for facebook to be building a database on me. And they would laugh and call me a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut weirdo. Now lately, all this stuff comes out, and those same people are completely shocked and outraged that facebook is invading their privacy.

But if you are cool with plugging in a mystery listening box from some rando on mturk and not even wondering about whether it could be listening to you or not, then by all means.
I honestly can't understand why or how anyone is surprised that Facebook and the like are spying on you/using your data.

edit: It doesn't change that I'm still gonna use them though
 

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I honestly can't understand why or how anyone is surprised that Facebook and the like are spying on you/using your data.

edit: It doesn't change that I'm still gonna use them though
I know, it totally boggles my mind. They give all this data to them willingly, and then they are shocked and appalled when they find out they use it for stuff?
 

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Well sure, you don't actually have to. But I do think it is a good idea to have some skepticism toward something that could be spying on you.

Just look at facebook. People always used to give me a hard time for not having one. I would tell them I don't really want to be providing a bunch of data for facebook to be building a database on me. And they would laugh and call me a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut weirdo. Now lately, all this stuff comes out, and those same people are completely shocked and outraged that facebook is invading their privacy.

But if you are cool with plugging in a mystery listening box from some rando on mturk and not even wondering about whether it could be listening to you or not, then by all means.
I hear what you're saying but, it's not a stretch to wonder if the fridge is letting Bezos know how much milk you drink. :p Everything is a mystery box these days. At least they state that they are "spying" or collecting metadata. But, tv's, routers, nest doorbells, etc. Those are the ones you should worry about, if any. That's where they will get you is with a product with a 'hidden feature' that can only be accessed by the manufacturer, or a government, etc.
Facebook is different, though. Anyone who scoffed at you for being wary that FB was building a DB, didn't understand what Facebook does. It's like my mom's husband. He can't figure out why companies are so nice to post all of the information that they do, for free. He can't wrap his brain around where the money comes from. Anyone who doesn't get that, shouldn't be posting personal information.
 

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I hear what you're saying but, it's not a stretch to wonder if the fridge is letting Bezos know how much milk you drink. :p Everything is a mystery box these days. At least they state that they are "spying" or collecting metadata. But, tv's, routers, nest doorbells, etc. Those are the ones you should worry about, if any. That's where they will get you is with a product with a 'hidden feature' that can only be accessed by the manufacturer, or a government, etc.
Facebook is different, though. Anyone who scoffed at you for being wary that FB was building a DB, didn't understand what Facebook does. It's like my mom's husband. He can't figure out why companies are so nice to post all of the information that they do, for free. He can't wrap his brain around where the money comes from.
Exactly man. All of those IOT thingys make me have to wonder a bit. What does a toaster need internet for? Is it phoning home to build a database of bread and toasting habits?
 

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you also have to remember there’s a lot of idiots in this world
That's not just idiotic, it's ignorant. They aren't really going out of their way to hide their data collection efforts, unlike some companies, that collect more and are less scrupulous with the findings.
 
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