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So, for prolific, you just using Kadauchi's chrome addon?
 

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Guess it depends what it is, like I'd never do the distribution center because that work sucks.
I worked at Family Dollar distribution center and it was horrible
they treated you like a slave and like you were not human
pushing you to go faster and faster pulling orders.
I told them even the conveyor machines break down, so give us a break
 

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I worked at Family Dollar distribution center and it was horrible
they treated you like a slave and like you were not human
pushing you to go faster and faster pulling orders.
I told them even the conveyor machines break down, so give us a break
That is pretty much how all companies are, they act like you should sprint around and be the bestest worker ever when it's a horrible job.
 
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I know this might sound like a terrible job but if you have a car and want a real job with steady income, I would consider delivering for papa johns or dominos or pizza hut. Im considering doing it again now that Im back in school. You easily make $50 a night in tips alone if its friday, saturday and sunday. (drunk people and people watching football tip decently) Plus you get reimbersed a portion for gas and you make wage too on top of tips. This was awhile ago but when I worked for papa johns, I usually made like $400 a week delivering 4 nights out of the week, so basically $100 a day. Other benefits are that you only deal with people in 2-3 minute intervals and you get to spend your entire shift driving around listening to music. When I did it GPS was still a new thing so it was stressful for me because I had to learn streets manually in my head. But now with GPS being so cheap, im going to seriously consider delivering pizza again because I need a good paycheck.
 

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Does the script have that same issue as the add-n (where 5 surveys show when you first start it up)?
Nope. It just makes the Prolific studies page make a noise when a new study shows up.
 
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I know this might sound like a terrible job but if you have a car and want a real job with steady income, I would consider delivering for papa johns or dominos or pizza hut. Im considering doing it again now that Im back in school. You easily make $50 a night in tips alone if its friday, saturday and sunday. (drunk people and people watching football tip decently) Plus you get reimbersed a portion for gas and you make wage too on top of tips. This was awhile ago but when I worked for papa johns, I usually made like $400 a week delivering 4 nights out of the week, so basically $100 a day. Other benefits are that you only deal with people in 2-3 minute intervals and you get to spend your entire shift driving around listening to music. When I did it GPS was still a new thing so it was stressful for me because I had to learn streets manually in my head. But now with GPS being so cheap, im going to seriously consider delivering pizza again because I need a good paycheck.
I cant think of a worse job for a bunch of sociallly sucky people then driving and knocking on strangers doors. like i hate it alredy.
 

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I was reading this, https://blog.prolific.ac/bots-and-data-quality-on-crowdsourcing-platforms/

It basically says Mturk has this problem and outlines it then says they don't and outlines that.
Yeah, it also says that they probably aren't "bots" and everything else that they're saying is true.

"We take any data quality reports very seriously and whenever researchers have suspicions about accounts they can report the relevant participant IDs to us we investigate the individual accounts as well as any shared patterns between them.
We analyse our internal data to monitor for unusual usage patterns, and data reports from researchers."

But, I don't agree that the take-away is "Prolific is trying to fuck Mturk by promoting that bots are killing the data and that's why there are less requesters."
More accurately, in that context, they're saying that MTurk is a largely unmonitored platform with less oversight, and security features. Both of those things have always been true and are no secret. AMT will let nearly anything post, and will let nearly anyone do it, and rarely intercedes in any fashion, other than to take their cut of the cash. Again, always been true.

I can see how this statement, "Unlike Mturk, Prolific is dedicated to empowering great research, so data quality is our top priority." could be slightly inflammatory but, it's still accurate, as Mturk's top priorities are quantity of completed work and profit.

All of that said, I use both. They're both very different and barely competitors. But, they didn't start the whole "bot panic" nonsense. In fact, they debunk it at the beginning.

Not trying to be argumentative, at all but, it's silly to keep calling it "bot panic" since it's nearly a consensus that there were probably no bots involved. Just people who did work that was so bad that it was indistinguishable from something that a bot would submit, which is pretty damn bad work, if you ask me. Which you probably wouldn't because you'd get an answer like this.:p

tl:dr Prolific confirms, what most of us knew from the beginning, that there were probably no bots and states that they have more safety features, regarding quality of data.:)

Thanks for the link. :) Really appreciate finally getting to read some accurate information regarding this incident, without rumor or scare tactics.
 
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I almost worked at wholefoods, back when they weren't owned by Amazon (I could walk there if I wanted) but I Had friends that worked there and, again, they all hated it. Plus I can't stand most of the people who shop there. And they require pants.
we should start our own store and the only requirement is 'No pants'
 

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Wow!! 1000 sergeys just got done a few minutes! bots BOTS I SAY!!!!
 
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