12/06 - Tehran Thursday!

[teal4life]

He's the one in all black in that youtube video still.
He was gorgeous.

I prefer Michael Landon a bit older like in Little House on the Prairie or Highway to Heaven.

I liked both of them. I especially liked Adam (Pernell Roberts) in Trapper John M.D. Major Crush as a kid. Loved Alan Alda too in the Mash Series. I'm old.

 

[CrazyCatLady]

That's the guy's name I was thinking of! Michael Landon! Thank you! All I could think of was, the guy with the feathered hair and big face, in a good way. He looks like I'd expect a dad to look. Like, when I was a kid, I was like, "if I had a dad, I'd want that guy." He's so nice. He never get's mad, just disappointed.

Lol!!! Yeah he does have that sort of face.
I'm actually watching the pilot episode of little house on the prairie right now. Haven't seen it in forever!

 

[CrazyCatLady]

I liked both of them. I especially liked Adam (Pernell Roberts) in Trapper John M.D. Major Crush as a kid. Loved Alan Alda too in the Mash Series. I'm old.

This conversation is making me think of Harve Presnell singing in Paint Your Wagon.
He was so gorgeous.

 

[Devil_Dawg]

This conversation is making me think of Harve Presnell singing in Paint Your Wagon.
He was so gorgeous.

clint eastwood in that was great

 

[CrazyCatLady]

clint eastwood in that was great

Yes!! I have the DVD of it but can't find it anymore. I need to buy it. One of my favorite movies.

 

[teal4life]

This conversation is making me think of Harve Presnell singing in Paint Your Wagon.
He was so gorgeous.

If your talking about cowboys, you can't forget The Duke. My mom said that what made him so great was you just knew that was what a cowboy should look like. That's coming from people from Hawaii and Los Angeles who only had T.V. to tell us.

 

[CrazyCatLady]

If your talking about cowboys, you can't forget The Duke. My mom said that what made him so great was you just knew that was what a cowboy should look like. That's coming from people from Hawaii and Los Angeles who only had T.V. to tell us.

of CoursE!! My dad was a huge fan of him. I have so many John Wayne movies.
mclintock is my favorite.

 

[teal4life]

of CoursE!! My dad was a huge fan of him. I have so many John Wayne movies.
mclintock is my favorite.

Yes, Los Angeles had 3 other channels besides the big 3 networks when I was growing up so we used to watch the old westerns, Godzilla movies and Speed Racer. Did not know until I left home to the midwest that not everyone had all those channels in the early 70s.

 

[Horse Feathers]

of CoursE!! My dad was a huge fan of him. I have so many John Wayne movies.
mclintock is my favorite.

I generally like Coen brothers movies but True Grit should never have been remade IMO. Jeff Bridges sounded like he had a mouth full of marbles the whole time. You can't reprise John Wayne.

 

[Theta Carinae]

It's possible, that others adapt and even with price cuts still manage to earn above what you consider fair. So even with the same philosophy of a fair wage, you may be using a hand saw and they may be using a chain saw.

It occurred to me, as I was angrily shredding junk mail, that the issue here is actually the difference in mindset between the hobbyist/part-timer working for fun money or to supplement a full-time brick and mortar wage, and the full-time freelancer who approaches Turk from more of a business mindset (which may be you as well, I don't believe I've made your acquaintance as yet)

Not only does it feel like an unacceptable risk to continue to work for someone who has proved that they'll drastically cut my pay without warning or reason, *I can't afford* to subsidize them by spending too much time figuring out how to adapt to their lower pay - which in itself has an additional cost for me. If I'm going to spend what little spare time I have doing anything, it'll be finding someone who will pay me decently - which has a clearer and usually (in my experience) much quicker path to success.

I guess if your rent payment isn't hanging in the balance, you wouldn't care as much about stuff like that. Apologies, not sure why that took so long for me to realize.

 

[Captain France]

These used to be $12+ an hour. By doing them (willingly and speedily) for 2/3 the price, you're (collective you, here) telling the requester that it's okay to devalue your work for no actual reason (besides possibly that they want to see if they can get away with it)

But that's as far as I'll get into it - I should know better. Sorry.

No, that's pretty understandable. If you could talk enough other people with the qual into passing them up, I'd do so too.

Meanwhile, I'm poor as hell and $8/hr is better than I've been getting on anything else the last couple of days, so if someone's gonna do them it might as well be me, yeah?

 

[Dark Jade]

What are Vickys? Any quals? I'm usually up to date on things but never heard of them before.

 

[turkinlight]

It occurred to me, as I was angrily shredding junk mail, that the issue here is actually the difference in mindset between the hobbyist/part-timer working for fun money or to supplement a full-time brick and mortar wage, and the full-time freelancer who approaches Turk from more of a business mindset (which may be you as well, I don't believe I've made your acquaintance as yet)

Not only does it feel like an unacceptable risk to continue to work for someone who has proved that they'll drastically cut my pay without warning or reason, *I can't afford* to subsidize them by spending too much time figuring out how to adapt to their lower pay - which in itself has an additional cost for me. If I'm going to spend what little spare time I have doing anything, it'll be finding someone who will pay me decently - which has a clearer and usually (in my experience) much quicker path to success.

I guess if your rent payment isn't hanging in the balance, you wouldn't care as much about stuff like that. Apologies, not sure why that took so long for me to realize.

I made almost 900 last week and I'm consistently in that neighborhood...

 

[alk69]

It used to be that people would band together to avoid underpriced work. I watched it happen multiple times on the forum I was on that is no more, and while it didn't always change matters - it did happen, as often as not, that when work sat undone for long enough requesters would bump the price back up.

But those days are gone. There isn't anything one person can do about it on their own, and so long as this "anything is better than $0!!!" mindset is king it's probably not going to happen again that turkers band together even in small groups. I know that, I just have a hard time not being sad and mad and disappointed when I see it happen.

Gonna stop there, otherwise I'll get ranty (I also know better than to think anyone wants to read pages of rant on the subject)

Yeah, and every time they offer those prediction tasks, they are for LESS MONEY! The only ones I ever did were paid 20.00. But that was some considerable time ago.( the task was easier, too)...These newer ones I don't do. Not worth the time, stress and anxiety involved....and for lower pay.

 

[DareAngel3]

What are Vickys? Any quals? I'm usually up to date on things but never heard of them before.

Vickys = Victoria Reznyk = 5's

 

[Dark Jade]

Vickys = Victoria Reznyk = 5's

Thanks! Don't have that qual.

 

[tricker]

That's the guy's name I was thinking of! Michael Landon! Thank you! All I could think of was, the guy with the feathered hair and big face, in a good way. He looks like I'd expect a dad to look. Like, when I was a kid, I was like, "if I had a dad, I'd want that guy." He's so nice. He never get's mad, just disappointed.

Michael Landon is the perfect "Pa". The father Laura Ingalls Wilder wrote about and who was portrayed by Mr. Landon in the show is the PERFECT dad.

 

[Merovign]

What are Vickys? Any quals? I'm usually up to date on things but never heard of them before.

I'm pretty sure there's a qual. I don't have it, so I've never done one. I don't even know what the qual entails (I assume it's a test posted sporadically).

 

[alk69]

It's possible, that others adapt and even with price cuts still manage to earn above what you consider fair. So even with the same philosophy of a fair wage, you may be using a hand saw and they may be using a chain saw.

You're right it is about sawing--about labor and fair pay for that labor....you don't saw off your leg to make a less than fair and unquestionably poor pay. That allows the bosses to expect work for nothing. And THAT is slavery.

 

[JenniLeigh]

I generally like Coen brothers movies but True Grit should never have been remade IMO. Jeff Bridges sounded like he had a mouth full of marbles the whole time. You can't reprise John Wayne.

New True Grit is more like book True Grit, and therefore my favorite. Old movie Mattie was NOT Mattie at all.
Plus, Rooster is supposed to sound like that.



and that's my old-lady-yelling-at-the-sky moment for the day
I have a lot of feelings about True Grit.