01/23 - Windy Wednesday

[4ourfuture]

Try HIT Forker. You got panda buttons within the finder itself. It's not as easy to use but it works the same way HIT Finder does. I'm going to try it again now because it works so well with Panda Crazy.

At this point I'm thinking I'll give it a try as well. Thanks

 

[Johnnyrs]

I didn't know you were still hanging around. Hi.

Hi. Yes still around but barely any time to do anything but work because needing to take care of my elderly parents.

 

[WillowWolf]

I'm just happy things haven't exploded (yet).. which, if you're on the newest version of Forker you can actually help me test if you get done working for the day & wanna throw me a screenshot with this info:

I had TPG push an update this morning, so if you're still on the version from last night that fraction wont be there, but just in case figured I'd ask for the data

Is this what you need? I won't be done working until tonight (haven't done much today). Do you want me to send you another one later?

 

[Michele]

:balloon:Hey, fellow Aquarius? Happy Birthday! :shortcake: :musicnotes:

...and may you get many presents

 

[ChrisTurk]

Actually I use Hit catcher for panda's now and Panda Crazy for search jobs only. The search jobs seems to be on a different timer than Panda's so it doesn't cause more pre's in my testing. I use overwatch for alerting to special requesters. Hit finder I'll use when I have a bad day and I need more hits. Hit Finder is a great way to find more requesters with batches. Just let it run for a few hours per day and then check the logged hits for any interesting batches that occur every day.

Just to clarify on this a bit wont this still cause issues with certain timings?

Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is the way PC runs its requester searches is by pulling up the requester's profile on MTurk (essentially typing the req name into the search box, but obviously using the rid link instead), if it doesn't see anything then no big deal (no problems in HIT Catcher).

However if it sees something, its gonna turn on a panda for it, and then you'll have problems if both timers are low & you have something running in Catcher?

Even if it doesn't see something running PC Search AND Finder at the low intervals should still cause PREs, just in the scraping of new HITs instead of the panda'ing of them.

The request pools are split, but this is still going to use too many in a # of scenarios. More or less trading off panda pool PREs for scraper pool PREs right?

Again, please let me know if I'm wrong I'm absolutely not intimately familiar with either set of tools (which is why I'm mostly asking! Its def a setup that makes a lot of sense if you have the timings done well) but I do know there are still some limits to running these kinds of things side-by-side and users who aren't aware of that may end up shooting themselves in the foot pretty heavily.

 

[ChrisTurk]

Is this what you need? I won't be done working until tonight (haven't done much today). Do you want me to send you another one later?

That is actually exactly what I'd need! Hoping for very low #s on the left at the end of the day

 

[Michele]

Title: Spirituality and Reaction Time Task | Accept Requester: SJC Psychology [A3HA5NHFY2XT68] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: [Pay=3.67] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=5.00] [Fair=5.00] [Reviews=4] [ToS=0] TO2: No Reviews Reward: 2.00 Duration: 30:00 Available: 1 Description: You will be asked to answer some questions about your spiritual beliefs and to complete a reaction time task. Qualifications: None [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[xqyzt]

PE $10.00

1000 penny hits, yeah baby that's right. I'm starting to pronounce captchas for fun. 6 by 6 newb! Mm fate nuh!

 

[WillowWolf]

That is actually exactly what I'd need! Hoping for very low #s on the left at the end of the day

Cool. I'll send you a screenshot tonight.I usually leave HIT forker running all day, so it should have a good 12 hours accumulated by then.

 

[klingeemonster]

:balloon:Hey, fellow Aquarius? Happy Birthday! :shortcake: :musicnotes:

...and may you get many presents

Let the sunshine in. ( No really, I'm starting to feel like I'm in Alaska here and this is Missouri).

 

[themildone]

Title: Survey: Connecting Survey Responses to Career Interests(~ 15 minutes) | Accept Requester: Neuropsychology of Decision Making [A37830J4PILJ7P] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 1.00 Duration: 45:00 Available: 39 Description: Survey regarding how responses to a questionnaire are related to interest in certain types of careers. Participants will respond to a collection of survey items. The survey should take 15 minutes to complete. Compensation $1.00 Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 80; Location In CA, US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[C to the J]

Title: VR Sentiment analysis | Accept Requester: Andrew [AH8G58PMHG840] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews Reward: 0.05 Duration: 3:00 Available: 595 Description: Customer comment analysis to document sentiment for their VR experience Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 99; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[C to the J]

Title: VR Sentiment analysis | Accept Requester: Andrew [AH8G58PMHG840] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews Reward: 0.05 Duration: 3:00 Available: 595 Description: Customer comment analysis to document sentiment for their VR experience Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 99; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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A batch for the rejectionless.

 

[sofaslug]

Title: VR Sentiment analysis | Accept Requester: Andrew [AH8G58PMHG840] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews Reward: 0.05 Duration: 3:00 Available: 595 Description: Customer comment analysis to document sentiment for their VR experience Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 99; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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Dang. My 99.5228% approval rate isn't good enough for this.

 

[ChristopherASA]

Thank you.
And him, I only have boys lol. His name is Atticus and he is turning 9 today!

Nine. He's getting UP there. Wow. You're lucky.
Great name, Atticus. Atticus as in "Finch"?

 

[Jamie Taylor]

Try HIT Forker. You got panda buttons within the finder itself. It's not as easy to use but it works the same way HIT Finder does. I'm going to try it again now because it works so well with Panda Crazy.

How do you put HITs back, that HIT Forker grabs? I just used it, and it grabbed a ton of HITs that I don't want. PLEASE don't tell me I have to manually get rid of each one.

 

[Minx2121]

Well I was catching a handful but seems to have slowed down a bit

 

[Mr_AvocadoMan]

How do you put HITs back, that HIT Forker grabs? I just used it, and it grabbed a ton of HITs that I don't want. PLEASE don't tell me I have to manually get rid of each one.

I have no idea. I'd just do the ones you have time for and leave the rest to expire.

 

[P L A Y E R 9 1]

A batch for the rejectionless.

did a batch for them yesterday that did not have this restriction

 

[Johnnyrs]

Just to clarify on this a bit wont this still cause issues with certain timings?

Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is the way PC runs its requester searches is by pulling up the requester's profile on MTurk (essentially typing the req name into the search box, but obviously using the rid link instead), if it doesn't see anything then no big deal (no problems in HIT Catcher).

However if it sees something, its gonna turn on a panda for it, and then you'll have problems if both timers are low & you have something running in Catcher?

Even if it doesn't see something running PC Search AND Finder at the low intervals should still cause PREs, just in the scraping of new HITs instead of the panda'ing of them.

The request pools are split, but this is still going to use too many in a # of scenarios. More or less trading off panda pool PREs for scraper pool PREs right?

Again, please let me know if I'm wrong I'm absolutely not intimately familiar with either set of tools (which is why I'm mostly asking! Its def a setup that makes a lot of sense if you have the timings done well) but I do know there are still some limits to running these kinds of things side-by-side and users who aren't aware of that may end up shooting themselves in the foot pretty heavily.

Yes that is how it works. But when the new mturk changes happened last year they change something so that panda's and searches won't interfere with each other and cause PRE's. I found this out last year around August by accident. I am sure if running too many searches at once will cause PRE's but it seems to have it's own limits now.

So if you run a search on a batch that runs all day then yes you would be correct that you'll be getting more PRE's which would defeat the purpose because it would be running panda's all the time interfering with other panda's. Now I have one Panda Crazy window on my second computer that runs only searches for stuff that comes out once or twice a day sometimes like C-sats, pinterest or ipsoft. At the same time I have Hit Catcher run on my main computer at a speed of 1000ms on a batch that runs all day. The PRE's on Panda Crazy shows 0. Hit Catcher shows less than 50 but I've been trying to catch some surverys today too. I even tested Panda Crazy running only searches at 700ms and still get no PRE's or very few.

Of course when the searches find hits than the PRE's will start causing problems and it's best to turn off Panda's at that time if you can. Many times I don't and understand I might get less.