01/25 - Function Friday!

[ChristopherASA]

Happy to help out.

And you invariably do, sir.

 

[Kennedy]

Grrrrr......
Got a reject today from a $4.50 survey on Monday saying "wrong code." BS. If I was given the wrong code, I entered it what I was given. If I wasn't given a code, I entered my user ID and sent an email. I have done that lately, but did not take note on who I sent that email to. Just did send a new email to requester assuring the validity of my answers. This pisses me off.

 

[Theta Carinae]

I feel like I'm most definitely responsible if I'm giving workers who scam a platform to broadcast that. Same as I'd be responsible for them disseminating survey content or anything else that could harm the ecosystem.

What else would be the point of bringing up TurkerView in the context of that discussion/sentence? I want TV to have positive work relationships across both sides of the platform, if TV is being discussed in regards to scamming I need to investigate it, and make sure the claims are valid or not in order to do facilitate those goals IMO.

...yeah, gonna let @Jerami respond to that as he feels so inclined, as I'm not sure it makes sense for me to speculate what his thoughts were/are.
You seem upset, sorry to hear; wish I could do more to help.

 

[Michele]

Title: Image & Attitudes Study | Accept Requester: RICH Lab [A1B2DSJDCAU8SE] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 2.50 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 142 Description: This survey assesses your perceptions of images. It also assesses your life experiences, attitudes, and health. Please carefully read the instructions and questions, and select the responses that best reflect your experiences, attitudes, or thoughts. Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 95; Total approved HITs GreaterThan 5000; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[Peachy]

Jesus man, Vietnam flashbacks all over the place.

Also... Besmirching the name of the (dearly departed) good doctor I see lol



Please, please pardon me if I followed the quote chain incorrectly, but the only two reviews for this HIT on TV took 35 minutes & an hour respectively. It's a little rude to be calling @PeachyRider a scammer for being faster than you --- don't we generally dislike those kinds of judgments made solely on completion time as workers?

For the other HITs on that profile --- I know almost every single one of those workers. I'd vouch for them as strongly as I'd vouch for my own work. Many of them report bonuses for good work including another longtime MTC'er ( @scrmcasey ) who also got a bonus for good work despite the HIT paying $100/hr already.

If I've followed the conversation correctly, I hope this is simply misreading how the website works because absolutely no one reported doing that HIT in 7 minutes. Please be careful suggesting a requester utilize account blocks if this is the case. That's dangerous. If I'm completely wrong & you've found issues w/ a different profile on TV please do send them my way.

In any case if I can help explain how TV's website functions or provide more clarity on the website I'd be happy to look into it. Even if I have followed the chain incorrectly, the idea that someone would look at a completion time on TV & hop right to "scammer" is pretty odd without extra context on the website? It'd be helpful to add that to the conversation since I do check the site for data quality issues but I've checked the workflow of quite a few TV "speedsters" myself and generally $/hr is the result of incredible ingenuity not malicious action.

That Requester in particular has an inflated average hourly because their original HITs in November were MUCH faster than the one quoted above. I understand if that's misleding & the root of the "7 minute" completion time guess, but the website displays breakdowns by HIT so users can get more accurate information on a per-record basis, it should be easily seen on the right hand side (or at the bottom for smaller viewports).

It's also really important to keep in mind that TV's script is not infallible, and many workers will just quickly throw their times into the pot without double checking that they are accurate which can often lead to situations where they end up reporting the HIT took them 1/10th the time it actually did (or 100x the actual time if they went AFK w/o pausing the timer).

Generally it is way safer to assume my coding is at fault for oddities in data on TV than user maliciousness. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I know some folks take shortcuts I personally wouldn't, but I'd defend a requester from a worker screaming "SCAMMER" & I'd most definitely go to bat for 90% of the people reporting times on that profile as well.

Even though I got the bonus I sent a message to him. I didn’t scam. I filled out each of the 4 images in the task as the instructions said. I just didn’t want a mistake block from the requester. This is what the requester said back:

“Hi I'm really sorry about that there was a scam and I got many results from fictitious workers so was hard for me to distinguish the wrong from the right ones. I mistakenly rejected yours but I did see your feedback and so sent you bonus 10 dollars after that did you get it? let me know!”


So instead of reversing the rejection he just bonused me the $10. I wish it was the other way around, but it is what it is

 

[Michele]

Title: Video Game Study | Accept Requester: Algebra Experiments [A15WIAYQEM5ZMN] Contact TV: [Hrly=$10.34] [Pay=3.00] [Fast=null] [Comm=null] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Blk=0] TO: [Pay=3.84] [Fast=4.88] [Comm=2.33] [Fair=5.00] [Reviews=26] [ToS=0] TO2: [Hrly=6.33] [Pen=null] [Res=null] [Rec=0%] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=0] Reward: 4.00 Duration: 4:00:00 Available: 1 Description: This task is part of a research study conducted by Dr. John R. Anderson at Carnegie Mellon University. In this HIT you will play a video game in a two dimensional environment. The goal is to maximize your points. The expected duration is about 80 minutes. You will earn bonus money depending on how well you play the game. Qualifications: Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[Michele]

Title: Download an app and complete a survey (~15 mins) | Accept Requester: S@TR [A1VHA47ORXU6WR] Contact TV: [Hrly=$12.02] [Pay=3.35] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=null] [Rej=1] [ToS=0] [Blk=0] TO: [Pay=2.75] [Fast=4.00] [Comm=3.00] [Fair=3.80] [Reviews=21] [ToS=0] TO2: [Hrly=5.24] [Pen=0.83 days] [Res=100%] [Rec=17%] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=1] Reward: 2.00 Duration: 48:00 Available: 6 Description: In this study you will be downloading an app and completing a survey on your experience in the app. You'll be helping us test a new app - looking for issues, bugs, and things that are confusing, as well as giving us feedback on the app experience. The entire process should take ~15 minutes. Qualifications: ab5c70a2a750f5b115e550db4b754b92dfd32213 DoesNotExist ; 35960ae4ffbb3dd365733c0db5d65a7b8b04b079 DoesNotExist ; 80412233201bcb15666b2ac446860a99b1c3bf42 DoesNotExist ; 799ea5dfa364efa477b02b12fce61a3b19f7f6eb DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 500; eabfffb859e4a6fa68427ae412fe02b05375d4b6 DoesNotExist ; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 96; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[C to the J]

The confusion on here with that Stanford account is that the previous HITs they had did actually pay $100/hr.
Laughably overpaid but man were they lovely.

These current HITs are a more realistic and fair hourly.


I miss the 100/hr stuff tho.

 

[ChrisTurk]

Even though I got the bonus I sent a message to him. I didn’t scam. I filled out each of the 4 images in the task as the instructions said. I just didn’t want a mistake block from the requester. This is what the requester said back:

“Hi I'm really sorry about that there was a scam and I got many results from fictitious workers so was hard for me to distinguish the wrong from the right ones. I mistakenly rejected yours but I did see your feedback and so sent you bonus 10 dollars after that did you get it? let me know!”


So instead of reversing the rejection he just bonused me the $10. I wish it was the other way around, but it is what it is

Dammit Peachy I defended your honor for nothing

 

[Windir]

Good morning turkeys!

 

[Michele]

:balloon::shavedice::shortcake:Happy Birthday! to both @aveline and @JenniLeigh from spaghetti rat, I hope your birthdays are as happy as this:balloon:

https://imgur.com/gallery/aUqIHu6

 

[Trucker]

Title: Look and rate photos of leaders(~ 2 minutes) | Accept Requester: Alexander Bor [A3KNIOMXUWZOEL] Contact TV: [Hrly=$16.17] [Pay=5.00] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=5.00] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Blk=0] TO: [Pay=3.27] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=5.00] [Reviews=20] [ToS=0] TO2: [Hrly=8.07] [Pen=0.04 days] [Res=null] [Rec=86%] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=1] Reward: 0.30 Duration: 30:00 Available: 45 Description: Your task will be to look at photographs and tell which looks more like a leader Qualifications: Exc: [1365314712-125521] DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 1000; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 95; Location In US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[Bliss]

I run Windows because I'm a gamer.
I use to have a job where I was on a MacOS 8 hours a day for 5 years. I took Linux classes in colleges, so I am comfortable with other operating systems.

 

[Michele]

sending back as I didn't qualify if anyone wants to set it up...

Title: Image & Attitudes Study | Accept Requester: RICH Lab [A1B2DSJDCAU8SE] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 2.50 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 142 Description: This survey assesses your perceptions of images. It also assesses your life experiences, attitudes, and health. Please carefully read the instructions and questions, and select the responses that best reflect your experiences, attitudes, or thoughts. Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 95; Total approved HITs GreaterThan 5000; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[nopoopwarez]

Is the Guillermo Horga hit still broken?

 

[cb456]

I need a big out of the blue bonus. make it happen turk gawdz.

 

[Kliq]

Title: Financial advisor selection (~ 7 minutes) | Accept Requester: Lixuan Zhang [AI0HQUUK12CDB] Contact TV: [Hrly=$11.94] [Pay=3.78] [Fast=null] [Comm=null] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Blk=0] TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 0.40 Duration: 30:00 Available: 22 Description: survey Qualifications: Exc: [-1140106069-125519] DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 1000; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 95; Location In US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[CaptainBoots]

It's always the 30-50 cent surveys that start me off with an involved writing prompt. Which I guess is okay. I feel less guilty when I return them that way.

One day I want to come across one that asks me to "Write about a time when you wrote about a time when and didn't like it."

 

[Peachy]

Dammit Peachy I defended your honor for nothing

what did I do? i went back and re-read everything you said.

 

[nmelssx]

Grrrrr......
Got a reject today from a $4.50 survey on Monday saying "wrong code." BS. If I was given the wrong code, I entered it what I was given. If I wasn't given a code, I entered my user ID and sent an email. I have done that lately, but did not take note on who I sent that email to. Just did send a new email to requester assuring the validity of my answers. This pisses me off.

Who's the requester?