07/24 - Spirited Away Sunday!

[catnapped]

I can't find the damn .07 racenotes panda. I somehow managed to blow away my panda list last week. And no, I didn't have a backup for the third time now. I guess I'll never learn from my mistakes.

https://www.mturk.com/mturk/previewandaccept?groupId=326T9PSZX1I84NSSY5Q4YDYXTI6JP8

 

[Red Leaf Falls]

I would like one, please. I woke up with no voice today. I think the Gentlemen stole it.

Oh god they did?

Spoiler: hush

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[weisian]

I have a question that is more curiosity based than anything: with a HIT of this length and this time commitment, how do you go about finding out the right compensation for it? Not a knock at all, I'm just interested in what goes behind it.

Compensation is difficult. As most of you probably know there are many pressures to reduce cost in academia, while simultaneously paying fair wages to workers. There is also movement (due to the higher cost) to move to "opt-in" surveys where the "payment" is some kind of personally interesting information. For instance, this site lets you take many different surveys. That is very useful for research and is potentially an interesting (almost fun) use of time. Because there is no money involved, questions of "fair wage", "exploitation" etc are largely irrelevant. It is obvious that the people are doing it for the intrinsic value of getting personal information from a psychological lens. We may consider this model in the future. We probably will get a different sample using such an approach.

Of course, sites like that are not Mturk. As you probably know, a few years ago "$2-$3/hour" was supposedly the norm. This self-propagating poor payment was a product of mturk's infancy. Since then there are new norms saying $6/hour or some will say pay "minimum wage". I've seen people arbitrarily defined the "minimum wage" as 7.25/hour. To me this seems as arbitrary as any other number, but whatever - that's what people are staking their morality on currently.

So we created a payment scheme that fell in that range. We guarantee $6/hour if you finish the entire battery, and will pay a bonus that could bring your earnings up to 7.50/hour. There is some wiggle room due to time spent, and the bonuses aren't guaranteed, but we wanted to keep some aspect of the payment performance based as a motivational force.

Finally, we pilot these tasks. We ran this study a month or so ago, and that helped us become more confident in our payment and the time taken for the whole HIT.

This are just my thoughts on the matter, but I hope they give some clarity!

 

[weisian]

will you be posting this hit again?

We will. There will be four more rounds for this HIT.

 

[humbleturker]

Compensation is difficult. As most of you probably know there are many pressures to reduce cost in academia, while simultaneously paying fair wages to workers. There is also movement (due to the higher cost) to move to "opt-in" surveys where the "payment" is some kind of personally interesting information. For instance, this site lets you take many different surveys. That is very useful for research and is potentially an interesting (almost fun) use of time. Because there is no money involved, questions of "fair wage", "exploitation" etc are largely irrelevant. It is obvious that the people are doing it for the intrinsic value of getting personal information from a psychological lens. We may consider this model in the future. We probably will get a different sample using such an approach.

Of course, sites like that are not Mturk. As you probably know, a few years ago "$2-$3/hour" was supposedly the norm. This self-propagating poor payment was a product of mturk's infancy. Since then there are new norms saying $6/hour or some will say pay "minimum wage". I've seen people arbitrarily defined the "minimum wage" as 7.25/hour. To me this seems as arbitrary as any other number, but whatever - that's what people are staking their morality on currently.

So we created a payment scheme that fell in that range. We guarantee $6/hour if you finish the entire battery, and will pay a bonus that could bring your earnings up to 7.50/hour. There is some wiggle room due to time spent, and the bonuses aren't guaranteed, but we wanted to keep some aspect of the payment performance based as a motivational force.

Finally, we pilot these tasks. We ran this study a month or so ago, and that helped us become more confident in our payment and the time taken for the whole HIT.

This are just my thoughts on the matter, but I hope they give some clarity!

Excellent response. It makes complete sense.

 

[vickiJ]

https://www.mturk.com/mturk/previewandaccept?groupId=326T9PSZX1I84NSSY5Q4YDYXTI6JP8

Thank you so much! All I could find was the 60 second timer one.

 

[Debatesmith]

Compensation is difficult. As most of you probably know there are many pressures to reduce cost in academia, while simultaneously paying fair wages to workers. There is also movement (due to the higher cost) to move to "opt-in" surveys where the "payment" is some kind of personally interesting information. For instance, this site lets you take many different surveys. That is very useful for research and is potentially an interesting (almost fun) use of time. Because there is no money involved, questions of "fair wage", "exploitation" etc are largely irrelevant. It is obvious that the people are doing it for the intrinsic value of getting personal information from a psychological lens. We may consider this model in the future. We probably will get a different sample using such an approach.

Of course, sites like that are not Mturk. As you probably know, a few years ago "$2-$3/hour" was supposedly the norm. This self-propagating poor payment was a product of mturk's infancy. Since then there are new norms saying $6/hour or some will say pay "minimum wage". I've seen people arbitrarily defined the "minimum wage" as 7.25/hour. To me this seems as arbitrary as any other number, but whatever - that's what people are staking their morality on currently.

So we created a payment scheme that fell in that range. We guarantee $6/hour if you finish the entire battery, and will pay a bonus that could bring your earnings up to 7.50/hour. There is some wiggle room due to time spent, and the bonuses aren't guaranteed, but we wanted to keep some aspect of the payment performance based as a motivational force.

Finally, we pilot these tasks. We ran this study a month or so ago, and that helped us become more confident in our payment and the time taken for the whole HIT.

This are just my thoughts on the matter, but I hope they give some clarity!

I would spend a magical wish from a genie if all requesters were like you

 

[Vanyanka]

@Krikket, I'm trying to talk to you in music room but it keeps saying my chats won't send.

 

[Vanyanka]

Title: Responding to short information(~ 4 minutes) | PANDA Requester: Simone Tang [AQ74Q2Z0O5CPI] (TO) TO Ratings: ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.75 Communicativity ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.49 Generosity ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.88 Fairness ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.76 Promptness Number of Reviews: 85 (Submit a new TO rating for this requester) Description: $.50 for 3-4 minutes Time: 30 minutes Hits Available: 1 Reward: $0.50 Title: Responding to short information(~ 4 minutes) | PANDA Requester: Simone Tang [AQ74Q2Z0O5CPI] (TO) TO Ratings: ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.75 Communicativity ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.49 Generosity ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.88 Fairness ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.76 Promptness Number of Reviews: 85 (Submit a new TO rating for this requester) Description: $.50 for 3-4 minutes Time: 30 minutes Hits Available: 1 Reward: $0.50 Qualifications: Exc: [-1189328331-17258] has not been granted; Location is one of: US Qualifications: Exc: [-1189328331-17258] has not been granted; Location is one of: US

 

[Matilda Jones]

They have been missing since the block.

Maybe you're just all blocked and you can't see them when they post.

 

[Vanyanka]

/me wants some fucking money!

 

[freedolphin]

How long does the $3 health practioner survey take

 

[humbleturker]

No TO batch masters looks like $$$$

 

[El Pablo]

No TO batch masters looks like $$$$

There's not a search option for no TO masters batch.

 

[essjay]

How long does the $3 health practioner survey take

It took me 16 minutes.

 

[humbleturker]

There's not a search option for no TO masters batch.

Find twitter for startup founders or something like that. Idk, I didn't look too deeply but I opened it briefly and it looked solid.

 

[ShanaMarie]

Title: Conversation About A Given Image | PANDA Requester: V2L [A2UIH3CID7L92X] (TO) TO Ratings: ★★★★★ 4.22 Communicativity ★★★★★ 3.85 Generosity ★★★★★ 5.00 Fairness ★★★★★ 4.62 Promptness Number of Reviews: 33 | TOS Flags: 0 Submit a new TO review Description: In this HIT you will be paired with another worker with whom you will have a natural conversation about a selected image. Time: 1 week 3 days HITs Available: 6 Reward: $0.80 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is greater than 100;Location is one of: AU, CA, GB, IE, NZ, US;HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 95

 

[Krikket]

@Krikket, I'm trying to talk to you in music room but it keeps saying my chats won't send.

Get your shit together, music room!

 

[Krikket]

Title: Conversation About A Given Image | PANDA Requester: V2L [A2UIH3CID7L92X] (TO) TO Ratings: ★★★★★ 4.22 Communicativity ★★★★★ 3.85 Generosity ★★★★★ 5.00 Fairness ★★★★★ 4.62 Promptness Number of Reviews: 33 | TOS Flags: 0 Submit a new TO review Description: In this HIT you will be paired with another worker with whom you will have a natural conversation about a selected image. Time: 1 week 3 days HITs Available: 7 Reward: $0.80 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is greater than 100;Location is one of: AU, CA, GB, IE, NZ, US;HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 95

 

[Princess Gina Marie]

/me wants some fucking money!

You're gonna need the webcam for that kinda money