04/18 - Thunderstorm Thursday!

[JenniLeigh]

The problem is Indian turkers buy legit US accounts and then use VPNs.

That doesn't negate the TOS violation. It's not the requestor's duty to accuse a worker of fraud for a mistake. That's Amazon's responsibility to sniff out fraud.
Fine, they can reject her for the mistake, but to accuse a worker of that, then demand an address, that's a problem.

 

[aveline]

Title: Answer a survey about a new brand | Accept Requester: Rebecca L Balliet [ATF0L1Y7A5013] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: [Pay=[color=Steelblue]5.00[/color]] [Fast=[color=Steelblue]5.00[/color]] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=[color=Steelblue]5.00[/color]] [Reviews=1] [ToS=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] TO2: No Reviews Reward: 2.50 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 1 Description: This survey is intended to evaluate possible names for a new kind of vision center: A company that offers competitive pricing for eye exams and frames, and donates frames to a person in need for every exam and frame purchased. Qualifications: None [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.9​

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[TSolo315]

That doesn't negate the TOS violation. It's not the requestor's duty to accuse a worker of fraud for a mistake. That's Amazon's responsibility to sniff out fraud.
Fine, they can reject her for the mistake, but to accuse a worker of that, then demand an address, that's a problem.

I agree, which is why I explicitly shared the TOS violation above. The requester obviously messed up and has gone about this the wrong way.

My point was just saying "Amazon validated me already!" doesn't solve the problem from a requesters standpoint.

 

[JenniLeigh]

My point was just saying "Amazon validated me already!" doesn't solve the problem from a requesters standpoint.

It still isn't their business beyond Amazon validating them is my point though.

 

[Tandem In Time]

So heard back from Empirical Jury.
You make a mistake that no americans make but nearly 80% of Indians make. Your name is ? If you send me a photo of a bill with that exact name and a US address on it within an hour i'll reverse the rejection.

Thinking that's against mturk terms and I am not willing to send him a picture of one of bills or my address so I guess I will eat this rejection and add them to my block list.

I'd just walk out of my house and walk to the nearest cross street while taking a video on my phone, then capture the street signs at the cross street. Then I'd email them the video.

Easily verifiable via Google Street view whether or not you are in the US and you don't need to provide them with your exact address.

 

[klingeemonster]

Does anyone get the feeling that a requester will put out a survey and get a good rating on the first few hits and later go back and pack on a bunch more questions on the same hit. I did a survey that TV said takes 15 minutes and it was honestly 25 pages of 40 questions a piece, the ultimate bubble hell with no end in sight. I finally threw it back, but this has happened before and I'm beginning to be suspicious. I'm not the fastest survey taker out there, but I'm usually around the average. Just curious if anyone else has suspected the same thing.

 

[Mikeyyyyy]

Sup

 

[TSolo315]

It still isn't their business beyond Amazon validating them is my point though.

I don't really understand. It is a researcher's responsibility to make sure their data is not being contaminated. If they are targeting US citizens and people from India are buying accounts and imputing answers that don't make sense -- it's their responsibility to combat that. Otherwise their results can't be used and they are wasting a lot of money (regardless of if Amazon SHOULD be stopping this from happening or not.) So they add English comprehension questions or something.

If you are simply saying that they shouldn't be asking for identification to reverse the rejection and should use a different method, then yeah, I agree.

 

[cyberwasp]

So has anyone had to buy an extra ac for their house? I'm in that spot right now...

I put a window unit in my bedroom/office to keep it nice and cool with the computer running, and just leave the house a/c off most of the time.

 

[lil queen trashmouth]

Title: Qualification for TV Previews | Accept Requester: Unanimous A.I. [A1OVB3ATBAQ1KM] Contact TO: [Pay=3.18] [Fast=4.41] [Comm=4.43] [Fair=4.50] [Reviews=47] [ToS=0] TO2: [Hrly=8.25] [Pen=null] [Res=null] [Rec=null] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=0] Reward: 0.03 Duration: 20:00 Available: 1 Description: Qualification for TV Previews Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 90; PB DoesNotExist [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.9​

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[Mecca]

I put a window unit in my bedroom/office to keep it nice and cool with the computer running, and just leave the house a/c off most of the time.

My office is in a loft with a vaulted celing so yea hot...

 

[DareAngel3]

I'd just walk out of my house and walk to the nearest cross street while taking a video on my phone, then capture the street signs at the cross street. Then I'd email them the video.

Easily verifiable via Google Street view whether or not you are in the US and you don't need to provide them with your exact address.

A novice VRAPI user would have the address coordinates and tax documents for the property in less than 30 seconds.

 

[aveline]

Title: Survey on Decision Making(~ 15 minutes) | Accept Requester: Florian Heeb [A2SW8ORQ16BVBB] Contact TV: [Hrly=$[color=Steelblue]12.41[/color]] [Pay=[color=Mediumslateblue]Good[/color]] [Approval=[color=Mediumorchid]1-2 weeks[/color]] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] [Blk=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] TO: [Pay=0.00] [Fast=0.00] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=0.00] [Reviews=1] [ToS=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] TO2: No Reviews Reward: 2.00 Duration: 40:00 Available: 4 Description: Survey on Decision Making Qualifications: Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 100; Exc: [1955591831-141669] DoesNotExist ; Masters Exists ; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 90; Location In US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.9​

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[aveline]

Title: Short Online Task (UMass)(~ 5 minutes) | Accept Requester: Hanne Melgård Watkins [A3UL38W4Q6LRVR] Contact TV: [Hrly=$null] [Pay=Unrated] [Approval=Unrated] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] [Blk=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 0.50 Duration: 20:00 Available: 1 Description: Read three short scenarios and respond using keyboard ('f', 'j') Qualifications: Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 100; SurveyGroup [2191] DoesNotExist ; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 85; Exc: [4501372-140974] DoesNotExist ; Location In US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.9​

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[TSolo315]

Title: A 20 minute Remesh Conversation - April 18th, 2019 4:30pm EDT | PANDA Requester: remesh Average Hourly Rate: NA Time: 120 minutes HITs Available: 1 Reward: $4.00

 

[Diviana]

Title: Survey about device and feature usage | Accept Requester: ruixin [A1GGPKRCRNZVAT] Contact TV: [Hrly=$44.99] [Pay=Generous] [Approval=Unrated] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0] TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 0.25 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 1 Description: Please tell us about your usage of certain devices and features for $0.25. We may select you for the opportunity to take a followup survey for $1.00. Qualifications: Already Taken DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThan 5000; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 95

1 question so it's like 20 seconds to do.

 

[aveline]

Title: Survey about device and feature usage | Accept Requester: ruixin [A1GGPKRCRNZVAT] Contact TV: [Hrly=$44.99] [Pay=Generous] [Approval=Unrated] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0] TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 0.25 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 1 Description: Please tell us about your usage of certain devices and features for $0.25. We may select you for the opportunity to take a followup survey for $1.00. Qualifications: Already Taken DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThan 5000; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 95

1 question so it's like 20 seconds to do.

It asked me a few questions, but still super quick. Thank you.

 

[Jrswish]

That doesn't negate the TOS violation. It's not the requestor's duty to accuse a worker of fraud for a mistake. That's Amazon's responsibility to sniff out fraud.
Fine, they can reject her for the mistake, but to accuse a worker of that, then demand an address, that's a problem.

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[aveline]

how is that a problem? Indian workers do trash work, indians don't belong on mturk, indians will do anything for a penny and will do terrible work just to make 20 cents.

Let's avoid the generalizations, please. I've known plenty of Indian workers on this platform that did work just as well as anyone else.

 

[jan]

Title: Complete a survey on government budgeting that takes approximately 5 minutes! | Accept Requester: FAI study [A2R95KXQWJDZN5] Contact TV: [Hrly=$16.31] [Pay=Good] [Approval=~24 hrs] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0] TO: [Pay=5.00] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=5.00] [Reviews=1] [ToS=0] TO2: No Reviews Reward: 0.50 Duration: 10:00 Available: 1 Description: Complete a survey on government budgeting that takes approximately 5 minutes! Qualifications: Completed class survey DoesNotExist ; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 97; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.9​

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