01/22 - Tabby Tuesday!

[aveline]

so TO is basically gone and now if we want this info we have to pay for it? just like ATT, netflix, amazon prime, nbc, cbs, showtime and whoever else wants a piece of a tiny pie. guess that's what happens when the grants dry up.

TO isn't going anywhere just yet. They were going to stop taking reviews this month, but they didn't. They're looking at ways to keep it going, so if anyone would like to see that happen and wants to help with it, I'm sure they would love some input on their forum over there.

 

[Dhaze]

Title: AVID Annotations Qualification Test | Accept Requester: AVID Annotation [A2TCFET4XJ6CM1] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: [Pay=1.00] [Fast=0.00] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=0.00] [Reviews=3] [ToS=0] TO2: [Hrly=null] [Pen=null] [Res=null] [Rec=0%] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=0] Reward: 0.10 Duration: 10:00 Available: 1 Description: Improve the provided annotation. Passing this test will grant you access to additional tasks from AVID Annotations. After submitting the hit, the task will be queued for evaluation. You will be assigned a qualification score based on this evaluation. Qualifications: Refiner short task DoesNotExist [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[FrenchToast]

As far as TV goes, is there a way to have it not post on their daily thread? I hit 'submit only' instead of submit & share on the one and only review I ever left and it still posted afaik.

 

[themildone]

As far as TV goes, is there a way to have it not post on their daily thread? I hit 'submit only' instead of submit & share on the one and only review I ever left and it still posted afaik.

i think it automatically posts your first few reviews so the mods there can see if you're reviewing accurately or something?

 

[Despairagus]

I tried to nap and it didn't work. I guess I'll do the zoltars and cry about it.

 

[tricker]

As far as TV goes, is there a way to have it not post on their daily thread? I hit 'submit only' instead of submit & share on the one and only review I ever left and it still posted afaik.

I believe it will post your first few because you're new and that's a way to make sure you're using it correctly and data quality is good (for example, a lot of people rate communication automatically, even when they have not communicated with the requester). I cannot remember how many it takes for that to stop happening, but it will stop happening.

 

[scrmcasey]

As far as TV goes, is there a way to have it not post on their daily thread? I hit 'submit only' instead of submit & share on the one and only review I ever left and it still posted afaik.

AFAIK, Submit Only should not post to the daily thread. There may be an exception to that if the requester had no prior reviews, and you're leaving the first one. I'm not sure if someone's first 10 reviews done on TV still post regardless of the button clicked.

 

[aveline]

Title: Answer a survey about your opinions | PANDA Requester: Tee M [A1P07JNJ37S193] (Contact) TV: [Hrly: $14.96] [Pay: 3.90] [Fast: 3.50] [Comm: null] [Rej: 0] [ToS: 0] [Blk: 0] TO: [Pay: 4.00] [Fast: 5.00] [Comm: 0.00] [Fair: 5.00] [Reviews: 12] [ToS: 0] TO2: [Hrly: ---] [Pen: ---] [Res: ---] [Rec: ---] [Rej: 0] [ToS: 0] [Brk: 0] Duration: 1 hour Available: 1 Reward: $0.30 Description: Complete this easy 5 min survey on your opinions Requirements: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 90; Location EqualTo US

 

[ChristopherASA]

Why, what's going to happen tomorrow?

nvm. not enough java yet. [Christopher heats another cup of coffee.]

 

[FrenchToast]

i think it automatically posts your first few reviews so the mods there can see if you're reviewing accurately or something?

I believe it will post your first few because you're new and that's a way to make sure you're using it correctly and data quality is good (for example, a lot of people rate communication automatically, even when they have not communicated with the requester). I cannot remember how many it takes for that to stop happening, but it will stop happening.

AFAIK, Submit Only should not post to the daily thread. There may be an exception to that if the requester had no prior reviews, and you're leaving the first one. I'm not sure if someone's first 10 reviews done on TV still post regardless of the button clicked.

So glad I know this now that I screwed myself out of free TV because of it. Pretty fucking mad at myself for not asking/trying to figure it out earlier. I'm just not active over there so was like, not wanting to clog up their daily thread.


edit: live and learn. i'll be alright without it i guess

 

[C to the J]

Title: AVID Annotations Qualification Test | Accept Requester: AVID Annotation [A2TCFET4XJ6CM1] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: [Pay=1.00] [Fast=0.00] [Comm=0.00] [Fair=0.00] [Reviews=3] [ToS=0] TO2: [Hrly=null] [Pen=null] [Res=null] [Rec=0%] [Rej=0] [ToS=0] [Brk=0] Reward: 0.10 Duration: 10:00 Available: 1 Description: Improve the provided annotation. Passing this test will grant you access to additional tasks from AVID Annotations. After submitting the hit, the task will be queued for evaluation. You will be assigned a qualification score based on this evaluation. Qualifications: Refiner short task DoesNotExist [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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Greetings from Amazon Mechanical Turk,

You are receiving this email because a requester has granted you the following qualification:

Qualification: Refiner short task
Requester: AVID Annotation
Qualification Value: 91

They have batches for people with 85 and for people with 90.
Above 90 gets access to both.

 

[ChrisTurk]

so TO is basically gone and now if we want this info we have to pay for it? just like ATT, netflix, amazon prime, nbc, cbs, showtime and whoever else wants a piece of a tiny pie. guess that's what happens when the grants dry up.

TO isn't going anywhere as far as I know.

In fairness, unlike any of those services, using TV (correctly) should increase the net amount of money in your pocket at the end of the day. And if it doesn't then there is no need to pay for it so it shouldn't really affect much.

TV has never at any point had grant funding (I wish lol, wouldn't need to fuss w/ any of this if that were the case). Every expense has come directly out of my (or other workers) pockets. Its wonderful that the citizens of California have opted to pay for TO to exist, unfortunately as a fellow Turker I can't really do the same anymore for TV At least not without abandoning it to rot, which I'd strongly prefer not to do.

well it says my key's not functional so I guess I won't be paying for something that doesn't work.

This 100% should not happen, the auth keys aren't even being checked by the server at the moment so it doesn't disrupt folk's day needlessly :o

Was it when you pasted it into the box? The script will check the key length itself to make sure it was copied correctly, but the script will still function w/o it until February 1st (at least).

Is anyone using HIT Forker? Most HITs are grey so it ends up being too hard to filter out the bad HITs. How do you put the HITs in Panda Crazy if you use HIT Finder (MTS)?

Forker will be updated this evening for the new TV API, at which point should look much more like this:

Which is almost the entire point of the new API Being able to deliver the data reliably instead of using stale caching mechanisms that end up making the scripts look bad (or non-responsive at all, which is what you get w/ Scraper if you use TO's data during business hours M-F). MTS will hopefully get the same treatment (actually, MTS would be a much larger upgrade overall since it covers more than Forker does).

As far as TV goes, is there a way to have it not post on their daily thread? I hit 'submit only' instead of submit & share on the one and only review I ever left and it still posted afaik.

I believe it will post your first few because you're new and that's a way to make sure you're using it correctly and data quality is good (for example, a lot of people rate communication automatically, even when they have not communicated with the requester). I cannot remember how many it takes for that to stop happening, but it will stop happening.

What @tricker said (help I can't type fast enough!). It should, however, do it a lot less than it used to. I made a lot of the "known" problem checks internal to the server so there is no need for randoms to be tagging you whining about misclicking a button. By mid-February it'll stop doing it completely since its not very intuitive & its a bit of a "rude" way to crowdsource the data quality checks lol, but its always kinda "worked" since I can't see everything, sorry

 

[klingeemonster]

Title: Answer a survey about sharing news articles | Accept Requester: CSM Research [A3REKY93KBIODI] Contact TO: [Pay=2.86] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=5.00] [Fair=3.00] [Reviews=8] [ToS=0] Reward: 0.50 Duration: 5:00 Available: 1 Description: Answer a few questions about your news articles sharing habits Qualifications: Facebook Account Holder EqualTo 1; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 80; Location EqualTo US; CSM_Retake_Revision DoesNotExist [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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[C to the J]

Title: Answer a survey about sharing news articles | Accept Requester: CSM Research [A3REKY93KBIODI] Contact TO: [Pay=2.86] [Fast=5.00] [Comm=5.00] [Fair=3.00] [Reviews=8] [ToS=0] Reward: 0.50 Duration: 5:00 Available: 1 Description: Answer a few questions about your news articles sharing habits Qualifications: Facebook Account Holder EqualTo 1; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 80; Location EqualTo US; CSM_Retake_Revision DoesNotExist [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.4.6​

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30 sec.

 

[ducky]

So glad I know this now that I screwed myself out of free TV because of it. Pretty fucking mad at myself for not asking/trying to figure it out earlier. I'm just not active over there so was like, not wanting to clog up their daily thread.


edit: live and learn. i'll be alright without it i guess

I didn't know either until someone told me only the first 10 reviews post regardless of which ones you click. I think it should've said this somewhere in the app until you hit that threshold but it doesn't matter anymore (or maybe it did and I didn't see it, lol)

 

[A6_Foul_Out]

now if we want this info we have to pay for it?

5/month for nearly 200,000 accurate wage data points that you can use to run your turk small business?

seems like quite a small price to pay tbh

bias notwithstanding.

 

[ChrisTurk]

I didn't know either until someone told me only the first 10 reviews post regardless of which ones you click. I think it should've said this somewhere in the app until you hit that threshold but it doesn't matter anymore (or maybe it did and I didn't see it, lol)

It used to say it in the intro stuff I believe, but if people read that the need to force-export them wouldn't exist to begin with

 

[FrenchToast]

I didn't know either until someone told me only the first 10 reviews post regardless of which ones you click. I think it should've said this somewhere in the app until you hit that threshold but it doesn't matter anymore (or maybe it did and I didn't see it, lol)

Yeah I didn't see it anywhere either, I looked after I posted my only review (on 1/12) and never reviewed anymore because I'm not active over there and didn't know why it was posting.

 

[mboone73]

5/month for nearly 200,000 accurate wage data points that you can use to run your turk small business?

seems like quite a small price to pay tbh

bias notwithstanding.

One man’s accurate is another man’s subjective. Just sayin’

But more power to making more money.

 

[tricker]

What @tricker said (help I can't type fast enough!). It should, however, do it a lot less than it used to. I made a lot of the "known" problem checks internal to the server so there is no need for randoms to be tagging you whining about misclicking a button. By mid-February it'll stop doing it completely since its not very intuitive & its a bit of a "rude" way to crowdsource the data quality checks lol, but its always kinda "worked" since I can't see everything, sorry

You mean you can't keep up with all the @'s in both forums and I'm sure all the PMs you're getting?
Come on dude. What else you got to do with your life? :greenheart: