03/28 - Trapeze Thursday!

[Trucker]

So, I just want to give everyone an update on what's going on with our server situation here and what we're kinda trying to deal with.

As you may or may not know, the person that previously setup and maintained the MTC servers parted ways with us back in February. The server setup that we inherited from him is, tbh, a little over our heads. We're setup on multiple servers with stuff like HAProxy and Kubernetes that we just don't really feel is necessary for a little MTurk forum like this. We've also been told by people that have worked with our setup recently, that do server stuff for a living, that it's over-engineered and completely overkill for our needs. It also seems to be breaking down on us and we haven't been able to figure out why. Our previous server person made some changes before handing things over to us, which included reconfiguring at least one of the kubernetes clusters, so we're not sure if the issues we're having may be related to something he changed. We attempted to reach out to him about a month ago, but he never got back to us, so I think this is something that we're going to have to figure out on our own.

So here's our plan: We think it would be best for us to get away from this setup and onto something a little more simple and easier to maintain. We think the easiest way to go about that would be to setup a new server alongside our current ones and migrate the database to it. Once everything is setup there, we can point the domain and HAProxy at the new server until the DNS fully propogates, then shut down HAProxy and the rest of the old setup. We think it's also safer this way because if we run into any unforeseen issues with the migration and something doesn't quite work, we'll still have the older setup (our current one) to fall back on. I tested this last night with a couple test forums that I have setup on other servers and it worked really well. Of course, the database from the test forum that I used was much, much smaller than MTC's database (and the server was configured in a completely different way), so I would like to do at least one or two test runs with the actual MTC database before doing this for real. I'm hoping to be able try that out this weekend some time.

So anyways, yeah. That's the current situation and what we're kinda wanting to do. I know we had a rather lengthy downtime on Tuesday, and a brief hiccup yesterday, but we are working on a sustainable solution to this ongoing problem. Just please be patient and bear with us (learning is a slow process). Also, if you happen to know anything about this sort of thing and you think we're stupid for even considering what I said above, please let us know. I'm very new to this, so I welcome any input I can get from people that know what they're talking about.

Thanks, everyone. <3

Thanks for the update and keeping everyone informed. All the hard work you guys are contributing behind the scenes is greatly appreciated and supported.

 

[savvy]

Title: Like Vodka? Then have a chat with our celebrity-hosted Brunch Bot about recipes, cocktails and pairing! | Accept Requester: Seth [AVS5XNNUL0RZQ] Contact TV: [Hrly=$11.95] [Pay=Good] [Approval=~24 hrs] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0] TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 1.00 Duration: 30:00 Available: 1 Description: have a meaningful chat (approximately 13 turns; turn=back and forth) with my bot designed to introduce brunch ideas. Please ask questions about the brand in addition to clicking buttons. Qualifications: NonDisclosure GreaterThan 0; Age - 18 - 25 EqualTo 0; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.8​

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I'm too old to brunch, apparently.

 

[Merovign]

There's an $8 Responding to Stories HIT up that is taking VASTLY longer than described, has run past the timer, and now I'm going to have to fight to get paid for it.

Should have done batches instead, you betcha.

 

[HelloHello]

I'm too old to brunch, apparently.

I doubt it. Maybe too young? I didn't see any age restriction - unless because it's liquor it's min. age, 21.

 

[SarahAshlee90]

DO I have to add something to get this to work? I copy pasted it into a new script in greasemonkey, but it's not doing anything. I'm kind of clueless with scripts.

Its working when I test it. I'm not really sure what else to tell you. Make sure both the extension and the script are turned on. All it does is preselect "white" and "male".

 

[savvy]

I doubt it. Maybe too young? I didn't see any age restriction - unless because it's liquor it's min. age, 21.

says 18-25 on the bottom

 

[Tandem In Time]

DO I have to add something to get this to work? I copy pasted it into a new script in greasemonkey, but it's not doing anything. I'm kind of clueless with scripts.

Can confirm that it works fine. Did you copy/paste the code into GreaseMonkey and then save?

Its working when I test it. I'm not really sure what else to tell you. Make sure both the extension and the script are turned on. All it does is preselect "white" and "male".

 

[DemiNin]

Can confirm that it works fine. Did you copy/paste the code into GreaseMonkey and then save?

Well, I got it working on Chrome with Tampermonkey. But it's not on Firefox with greasemonkey. Not sure why, it's saved and everything.

 

[aveline]

Title: Evaluating Active Learning Oracle Querying Policies | Accept Requester: CU VisuaLab [AWQSLL1GI4Q6K] Contact TV: [Hrly=$[color=Mediumslateblue]11.87[/color]] [Pay=[color=Mediumslateblue]Good[/color]] [Approval=[color=Steelblue]~24 hrs[/color]] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] [Blk=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] Reward: 1.50 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 5 Description: Please provide a short answer to this question. Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 95; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.8​

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[aveline]

Title: Cognition and Decision Making Survey | Accept Requester: Achikam Cohen [A2GSOMJIC9RZSI] Contact TV: [Hrly=$[color=Steelblue]16.27[/color]] [Pay=[color=Steelblue]Generous[/color]] [Approval=[color=Mediumpurple]3-7 days[/color]] [Comm=[color=Mediumpurple]Acceptable[/color]] [Rej=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] [Blk=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] Reward: 2.00 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 1 Description: Select the best answer that is right for you Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 95; Total approved HITs GreaterThan 50 [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.8​

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[Merovign]

Okay now how about spending the next hour and a half on something I'm going to get paid for, as opposed to the last hour and a half.

(throws salt everywhere)

 

[Itsmee]

Title: Answer a survey about your perspective on aging | Accept Requester: Jill M. Chonody [A2H1J4XA80YISK] Contact TV: No Reviews TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 1.00 Duration: 1:00:00 Available: 1 Description: questions about age and aging Qualifications: Age - 55 or Older EqualTo 1; Location EqualTo US [tr][td] HIT exported from Mturk Suite v2.6.8​ HIT Title: HIT Description: I did NOT receive a code at the end? Submitted with my worker id as a code cheers - Rick --------------------------------- Jill Chonody <*****@yahoo.com> 2:34 PM (54 minutes ago) to me Thank you for your email! I didn't set up the code correctly but you'll be paid! Best, Jill

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[HelloHello]

says 18-25 on the bottom

Oops. I didn’t see that and I’m certain I had to put in my age!

 

[reprise]

hey all

i might be stupid but what are Geos and GSB hits? I don't see anything with search (except the stanford GSB ones but they arent batches)

halp?

btw i've been doing the TAKANO OGINO red herring fallacy hits. they aren't bad, maybe a minute max if you can read fast and you understand what a fallacy and counterargument are

 

[TotalBabe]

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[TotalBabe]

~3 mins.

Title: Answer a survey about data incident news | Accept Requester: Chang Ham [A1HYK3LGPZ00OJ] Contact TV: [Hrly=$20.97] [Pay=Generous] [Approval=Unrated] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0] TO: No Reviews TO2: No Reviews Reward: 1.00 Duration: 20:00 Available: 1 Description: Give us your thoughts and feelings about data incident news Qualifications: Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 5000; Masters Exists ; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 99; Location EqualTo US

 

[nopoopwarez]

hey all

i might be stupid but what are Geos and GSB hits? I don't see anything with search (except the stanford GSB ones but they arent batches)

halp?

btw i've been doing the TAKANO OGINO red herring fallacy hits. they aren't bad, maybe a minute max if you can read fast and you understand what a fallacy and counterargument are

Geohive Administrator - requires a qual
GSB Crowd Forest - Masters and the batch is gone

 

[CrazyCatLady]

Afternoon everyone

Did anyone get the greg qual?

 

[aveline]

Title: Draw bounding boxes and write direction sentences | Accept Requester: MERLAMT [A2536AN6RDLKJQ] Contact TV: [Hrly=$[color=Steelblue]17.16[/color]] [Pay=[color=Mediumslateblue]Good[/color]] [Approval=[color=Mediumslateblue]1-3 days[/color]] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] [Blk=[color=Steelblue]0[/color]] Reward: 0.25 Duration: 2:00:00 Available: 93 Description: Draw bounding boxes write direction sentences Qualifications: Masters Exists ; Location EqualTo US

Drawing bounding boxes and writing sentences all in the same HIT? That just sounds like a little too much fun for me. I'll pass.

 

[aveline]

Afternoon everyone

Did anyone get the greg qual?

I did not, but I apparently didn't do enough of the qual HITs.