07/30 - Magical Money Monday

[Jerami]

I'm always paranoid they can see/secretly judge us for expired shit lmao

Can't they use Abandonment rate (%) as a (dis)Quallification?

 

[AlexDroog]

I'm always paranoid they can see/secretly judge us for expired shit lmao

Lol, I know it freaks me out too. and I feel real guilty for letting HITs expire. Like, I feel like a bum for not getting them done.

 

[AlexDroog]

Can't they use Abandonment rate (%) as a (dis)Quallification?

That's what I've heard but I've never seen that particular "qualification" used in a HIT before. I feel like it would definitely be used against someone when it comes to getting masters. Which I secretly yearn for.

 

[Jerami]

Lol, I know it freaks me out too. and I feel real guilty for letting HITs expire. Like, I feel like a bum for not getting them done.

I don't feel very guilty... unless it's got a 1350 minute timer.

 

[jklmnop]

Can't they use Abandonment rate (%) as a (dis)Quallification?

I've seen it used exactly once, not 100% sure which requester it was but I think it might have been Jack Stone (aka Twitter). RIP me if anyone uses it again because I will not hesitate to return mediocre HITs

 

[Achilles2357]

yeah, they are really good about paying right. And we make out on the exchange rate. But I've never made any serious dough from them. I put it down to the fact that I'm in a really common demographic - 30's, white, American. There are about 5 million people of that same demographic ready to do surveys for money.

I don't think anyone is going to make big money from Prolific, but it is only recently that I've become good enough at mturk that I've had to throw back Prolific studies since I had better stuff. The other good thing about Prolific is that even if some of the studies have boring standard question sets, on the average they are more interesting than the average mturk "study". Not always, but they have the edge... but if you get better at picking the right mturk studies... mturk can get the edge even there.

 

[Tandem In Time]

That's what I've heard but I've never seen that particular "qualification" used in a HIT before. I feel like it would definitely be used against someone when it comes to getting masters. Which I secretly yearn for.

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[Jerami]

That's what I've heard but I've never seen that particular "qualification" used in a HIT before. I feel like it would definitely be used against someone when it comes to getting masters. Which I secretly yearn for.

I don't think it's used, mostly because I don't think it's high on the priority list for requesters, when assigning qualifications. But, it isn't really a big deal unless a requester allows too much time on their HIT, then they have to deal with delays. But, if it's a reasonable timer, it'll just expire and go back to the pile.

Story about HIT timers. I recall a time when...
I've seen very high paying, single HITs that have a long timer but, are impossible to do for whatever reason(confusing instructions, no submit button, won't load, etc.) and get passed from one person to the next, every 24-48 hrs, because the pay is so high. lol. I remember that I grabbed a $90 HIT that, through communication with the requester, the HIT kept getting more and more involved. He just kept adding stuff. I made some effort on it but, after 2 days, I said eff this, and threw it back. I was going to, but didn't, give them my work, for holding them up for 2 days. Then I said, nope. I'm not getting paid for that. Then someone else here caught it. They had to go through the same lengthy explanations with the requester, got a day into it and said, "this is impossible to do the way that they are asking," and threw it back. It kept popping up for a week but, the problem for the requester was that people were holding it for 2 days before tossing it back. It took like 9 days before someone actually just did it.
Don't know what really made me think of that. Sorry. Just late night rambling.

 

[AlexDroog]

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That was really funny. It's probably true. and they all have to be A9 HITs.

 

[Achilles2357]

I've seen it used exactly once, not 100% sure which requester it was but I think it might have been Jack Stone (aka Twitter). RIP me if anyone uses it again because I will not hesitate to return mediocre HITs

It is probably partly because I'm not doing many batches, but I'd say I'm returning 20-40% of hits I accept. Maybe even 50%. Some of these are official DQ's (you've done these, please return), others are things I don't meet the demos for (and I'm being honest), others are just bad hits that met some threshold for acceptance but not for doing, and sometimes I just have better stuff in the queue.

 

[Jerami]

I've seen it used exactly once, not 100% sure which requester it was but I think it might have been Jack Stone (aka Twitter). RIP me if anyone uses it again because I will not hesitate to return mediocre HITs

I also don't know if a return and and 'Abandon' are the same, metric-wise. I thought abandoned was only for expired timers but, what do I know?

 

[JenniLeigh]

Can't they use Abandonment rate (%) as a (dis)Quallification?

I dunno o.0

 

[Jerami]

I dunno o.0

We've confirm that's a big 10-4, good buddy.

 

[AlexDroog]

I don't think it's used, mostly because I don't think it's high on the priority list for requesters, when assigning qualifications. But, it isn't really a big deal unless a requester allows too much time on their HIT, then they have to deal with delays. But, if it's a reasonable timer, it'll just expire and go beck to the pile.

Story about HIT timers. I recall a time when...
I've seen very high paying, single HITs that have a long timer but, are impossible to do for whatever reason(confusing instructions, no submit button, won't load, etc.) and get passed from one person to the next, every 24-48 hrs. lol. I remember that I grabbed a $90 HIT that, through communication with the requester, the HIT kept getting more and more involved. He just kept adding stuff. I made some effort on it but, after 2 days, I said eff this, and threw it back. I was going to, but didn't, give them my work, for holding them up for 2 days. Then I said, nope. I'm not getting paid for that. Then someone else here caught it. They had to go through the same lengthy explanations with the requester, got a day into it and said, "this is impossible to do the way that they are asking," and threw it back. It kept popping up for a week but, the problem for the requester was that people were holding it for 2 days before tossing it back. It took like 9 days before someone actually just did it.
Don't know what really made me think of that. Sorry. Just late night rambling.

It's funny you mention that. I pick up a HIT like that every week. I tossed one back today. $20 HIT that wanted me to go through a bunch of corporate document and distil some policies down to a list on a spreadsheet. He put up examples and really tried with the instructions but... I just won't put the time into something I feel has a high chance of getting arbitrarily rejected because some obscure requirement wasn't met. Then I might send out an email saying some shit that I shouldn't.... and who knows where it goes from there. Best to just let someone else deal with the headache. I do alright on here without those HITs. But yeah, I see those things at least once a week. Call it a hot potato or a rejection grenade getting ready to go off in someones face.

 

[AlexDroog]

It is probably partly because I'm not doing many batches, but I'd say I'm returning 20-40% of hits I accept. Maybe even 50%. Some of these are official DQ's (you've done these, please return), others are things I don't meet the demos for (and I'm being honest), others are just bad hits that met some threshold for acceptance but not for doing, and sometimes I just have better stuff in the queue.

alright my HITS returned rate is 21%. My abandonment rate is 2%. My submission rate is 75%. Wonder what happened to the other 2%

 

[AlexDroog]

alright my HITS returned rate is 21%. My abandonment rate is 2%. My submission rate is 75%. Wonder what happened to the other 2%

those stats were a pain in the ass to dig up btw

 

[AlexDroog]

37 pages of qualifications and about 2 of those pages are relevant. Thanks for the congestion survey comet.

 

[AlexDroog]

It is probably partly because I'm not doing many batches, but I'd say I'm returning 20-40% of hits I accept. Maybe even 50%. Some of these are official DQ's (you've done these, please return), others are things I don't meet the demos for (and I'm being honest), others are just bad hits that met some threshold for acceptance but not for doing, and sometimes I just have better stuff in the queue.

I return a lot of HITs that don't put a clear time expected to finish the HIT. Nothing worse than getting a $1.50 HIT and then it saying it'll take 40 minutes in the informed consent. I usually make a point of saying a little something on turkopticon when they do that. This skinny white boy doesn't even think about completing a HIT for less than $1/10 minutes and I think it's unreasonable for a requester to assume I will.

 

[AlexDroog]

I also don't know if a return and and 'Abandon' are the same, metric-wise. I thought abandoned was only for expired timers but, what do I know?

two different metrics on the qualifications page

 

[AlexDroog]

alright my HITS returned rate is 21%. My abandonment rate is 2%. My submission rate is 75%. Wonder what happened to the other 2%

and 2% of my HITs end up in Davy Jones locker!