08/25 - Sean Connery Sunday!

Do you love Sean Connery movies?


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Hmm, my Amazon Payment is showing a 'Disburseable Balance' which I don't recall ever seeing before. In my case it's 0.00 given I have a negative balance. I'm thinking they're going to have us pay back the amounts deposited in error during the fiasco via pay for our ongoing work (which is what I would do if I were in their position). Hopefully, tomorrow we'll get the official word so we will have one less worry/concern on our minds.
As I understand it, the money has to be returned. It is bank fraud if it is not. And both parties as I understand which isn't saying much, but both parties could possibly be in trouble if the money isn't returned.
 
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As I understand it, the money has to be returned. It is bank fraud if it is not. And both parties as I understand which isn't saying much, but both parties could possibly be in trouble if the money isn't returned.
I don't see any bank fraud. Turkers didn't commit fraud by trying to withdraw earned money into their account. This is purely an error on Amazon's end. Not reversing those payments is their decision. They are paid to our banks already, they have the funds. Whether Amazon decides to get rid of our negative balances or not, remains to be seen. It would be nice, but I wouldn't count on that.
 

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This wasn't too bad.
 

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I don't see any bank fraud. Turkers didn't commit fraud by trying to withdraw earned money into their account. This is purely an error on Amazon's end. Not reversing those payments is their decision. They are paid to our banks already, they have the funds. Whether Amazon decides to get rid of our negative balances or not, remains to be seen. It would be nice, but I wouldn't count on that.
Amazon allowed money out that wasn't rightfully to go out. That creates a problem.
 
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Hmm, my Amazon Payment is showing a 'Disburseable Balance' which I don't recall ever seeing before. In my case it's 0.00 given I have a negative balance. I'm thinking they're going to have us pay back the amounts deposited in error during the fiasco via pay for our ongoing work (which is what I would do if I were in their position). Hopefully, tomorrow we'll get the official word so we will have one less worry/concern on our minds.
Be sure that email is really from Amazon. There's lots of Amazon spam emails around.
 
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I think AP's easiest fix would be to keep the negative balances - let workers turk to pay it back (or just eat it if they quit turking or don't turk enough anymore to repay the entire negative balance).
 

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Amazon allowed money out that wasn't rightfully to go out. That creates a problem.
Yes it does. For Amazon. The error was theirs. (Unless they can prove fraud on your part) They can not remove funds from your bank account without express permission from you (or a court). Just as a loan payment, utility bill, or direct deposit can not be done without your agreement. Your bank can take money from your account, but you've already agreed to that in the agreement when you got the account(you might want to read that next time). We won't go into what the Fed Gov. can do to you and your bank account. But even the Fed has to be careful so's not to be caught out by the law and the courts.
And just as an aside: Pay pal used to take money from linked bank accounts when funds were too low in the paypal account. Someone objected. Pay pal lost the suit. They don't do that anymore. Not without previous agreement.
Take this as you please as mere comments from another turker. Who may--or may not-- know any damn thing at all.
 

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Um, so who else got the Email from Amazon payments??

Does this mean I get to keep the $430 some in F-up money that's in my bank account???
 

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Um, so who else got the Email from Amazon payments??

Does this mean I get to keep the $430 some in F-up money that's in my bank account???
Read the last 2 pages. :LOL:
But yes it will stay in your bank account. Not sure what they meant by fixing the negative to Amazon Payments. Unclear if you will have to pay it back that way.
 

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Read the last 2 pages. :LOL:
But yes in your account. Not sure what they meant by fixing the negative to Amazon Payments. Unclear if you will have to pay it back that way.
Digesting now...wow...just wow.
I mean this was a F-up of epic proportions...but yeah, still lots of questions to be addressed
 

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Read the last 2 pages. :LOL:
But yes it will stay in your bank account. Not sure what they meant by fixing the negative to Amazon Payments. Unclear if you will have to pay it back that way.
As nearly as I recall(which is vaguely at best), the last time this happened they let it go. Restart from go. Their error. Their loss. No one knows what they'll do this time.
This is a good example of what can happen when you let an automatic computer program run your business. And then don't hire enough real people to oversee it.
 

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I know with banks if they accidentally give you money it's illegal to spend it -- you have to give it back.

Probably some grey area with amazon payments but I would be surprised if they end up giving people hundreds of dollars.

...and a little disappointed I didn't transfer 20 times to take advantage,
 

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As nearly as I recall(which is vaguely at best), the last time this happened they let it go. Restart from go. Their error. Their loss. No one knows what they'll do this time.
This is a good example of what can happen when you let an automatic computer program run your business. And then don't hire enough real people to oversee it.
I remember we got like $15 one time they screwed up but they just took forever to deposit to the banks. Also people got more when they closed their accounts accidentally. With the amount of money they oversee they need a better system. But that is Amazon in general TBH. Do the least work to get the most $.
 
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