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Did you get a Amazon bot warning email?


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Title: Jury Duty - The Kind You Get Paid For (COO-TOY-W)(~ 60 minutes) | Accept
Requester: Empirical Jury [A2QGI2L47S8HB0] Contact
TV: [Hrly=$11.22] [Pay=Good] [Approval=1-3 days] [Comm=Poor] [Rej=1] [Blk=0]
TO: [Pay=2.99] [Fast=3.11] [Comm=2.06] [Fair=2.99] [Reviews=107] [ToS=3]
TO2: No Reviews
Reward: 8.00
Duration: 3:00:00
Available: 47
Description: You will read a presentation and return a verdict. You will also answer questions about yourself and the script.
Qualifications: Exc: [501147046-182041] DoesNotExist ; SurveyGroup [3076] DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThanOrEqualTo 100; HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThanOrEqualTo 90; Location In US
 
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Title: Individual Perceptions XXI(~ 15 minutes) | Accept
Requester: SIBL Lab [A1JTEOSQ0M2HTO] Contact
TV: [Hrly=$13.66] [Pay=Good] [Approval=~24 hrs] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0]
TO: [Pay=2.28] [Fast=4.30] [Comm=2.78] [Fair=3.83] [Reviews=48] [ToS=0]
TO2: No Reviews
Reward: 2.00
Duration: 30:00
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Description: Participate in an interesting study where we will ask you rate particular names. You must be 18 or older and a legal adult in your state of residence to participate in this study.
Qualifications: Not available from queue exports.
 
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well, ya'll are making me scared to withdraw my $450... maybe I'll just keep it and let it pile up till they do their automatic withdrawal thing....
 

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Title: Test a fun new social network site - up to $10 payment with bonus! | Accept
Requester: Cornell Social Media [A37XI48SFRYD3Y] Contact
TV: [Hrly=$18.56] [Pay=Fair] [Approval=1-3 days] [Comm=Unrated] [Rej=0] [Blk=0]
TO: [Pay=3.45] [Fast=3.96] [Comm=2.80] [Fair=4.00] [Reviews=32] [ToS=0]
TO2: No Reviews
Reward: 0.50
Duration: 1:00:00
Available: 1
Description: We want to investigate how communities form and are sustained on social media sites. Use the site for 2 days and earn up to $10!
Qualifications: Not available from queue exports.
 

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I've said this elsewhere, and just to be clear I don't have any sort of contacts at Amazon or anything it's just my personal observations and I'm not taking sides/judging/whatever, but I think these emails are a lot more high level than just any X/Y batch. MTurk has everyone's entire work history from day one, it's not like they cannot look into things with some fairly simple queries and pull accounts with X # blocks / % above avg submission on Z batch / etc to start identifying accounts that might be sources of data quality that might be undesirable to requesters. People have a really hard time disassociating their work effort with their work product and we all know on MTurk we don't really get paid for effort.

From what little we get to see they've divulged reaching out for datasets specifically looking for low quality work & the VPN'd up accounts. This one was posted this week:



So even being cheeky and thinking putting "VERY NICE" into the comment box on a survey is funny (something I've seen more than a few workers mention doing) might come back to bite you 6 months later. Could be anything similar from work history. There is a requester resource that specifically looks for some stupid things & associates a quality scored based on it & no one will know if/when the dataset is shared w/ MTurk and/or how they process it (if at all).

Maybe some emails are errors, maybe not, but it's a good opportunity to remember that a lot of things that are just a byproduct of being a human worker can be really damning when tossed into an algorithm that sorts us all based on input we don't get a say in.
Yes agree, and this is like one of those blizzard clean ups and clear outs, prior to the move to the payment structure being implemented. I think also those two large groups of requesters as well the "merge to report" ones have given more insight to the decision makers. I hope any innocents get things cleared up quick enough.
 
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Ah, okay so time to withdraw ASAP before a new issue comes about.. got it LOL
lmao maybe
Mine WERE after Sunday though.

(I think all the issues were from this weekend?)

(I've withdrawn four times this week... in case that matters lol)
 
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I've said this elsewhere, and just to be clear I don't have any sort of contacts at Amazon or anything it's just my personal observations and I'm not taking sides/judging/whatever, but I think these emails are a lot more high level than just any X/Y batch. MTurk has everyone's entire work history from day one, it's not like they cannot look into things with some fairly simple queries and pull accounts with X # blocks / % above avg submission on Z batch / etc to start identifying accounts that might be sources of data quality that might be undesirable to requesters. People have a really hard time disassociating their work effort with their work product and we all know on MTurk we don't really get paid for effort.

From what little we get to see they've divulged reaching out for datasets specifically looking for low quality work & the VPN'd up accounts. This one was posted this week:



So even being cheeky and thinking putting "VERY NICE" into the comment box on a survey is funny (something I've seen more than a few workers mention doing) might come back to bite you 6 months later. Could be anything similar from work history. There is a requester resource that specifically looks for some stupid things & associates a quality scored based on it & no one will know if/when the dataset is shared w/ MTurk and/or how they process it (if at all).

Maybe some emails are errors, maybe not, but it's a good opportunity to remember that a lot of things that are just a byproduct of being a human worker can be really damning when tossed into an algorithm that sorts us all based on input we don't get a say in.
it would be nice if mturk used an actual human to judge if we are doing human intelligence tasks
just my 2 cents
 

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Title: Elmo loves gumballs | PANDA
Requester: Stanford Language and Cognition Lab [A1XUBU5CS5SFRV] (Req TV): $16.40/hr/hr
(TO): [Pay: N/A] [Fair: N/A] [Comm: N/A] [Fast: N/A]
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Children's game involving Elmo -- adult participants wanted for testing purposes
Time: 15 minutes(s)
HITs Available: 1
Reward: $0.85
Qualifications: HIT approval rate (%) GreaterThan 95; Completed Elmo game already DoesNotExist ; Total approved HITs GreaterThan 50; Location EqualTo US;
 

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My "pending" withdrawal is only $110 but I am royally screwed now. That was gas money for the week so I can get to my job. This is making me rethink this whole TURKing, I have only doing this since early June and between the August debacle and now this I may just give it up. The extra money is nice, but a huge company like Amazon doing business like this astounds me.
99 percent of the time the payments are fine. I've had two issues in three years with payments and one of them resulted in me gaining 200 dollars cause of their mistake. Turk and Payments are separate entities. Turk has never been late in getting the money to Payments for me, so it's Payments at fault here and they are going away in 2 months, so you shouldn't leave. Turk's issues are they suspend people for no reason and always want you to live in fear that you may be next.
 
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