05/19 - Toy Fox Thursday!

[thedorchannel]

Screw it, i'm submitting with ID in 5 mins if there's no code still. I've submitted with ID before and all was approved

they just gave it as u typed that lol

 

[Tuesday]

The fee hike was a bit more complex than that. Before July of last year, all non-masters HITs had a fee of 10% of whatever that HIT paid. Masters HITs had a fee of 30%. That 300% increase only applied to HITs that had 10 or more of the same HIT in a group (typically surveys). Everything else non-masters was increased from 10% to 20%. Masters fees were dropped from 30% to 25%. The reality of the whole fee hike situation wasn't as bad as many made it out to be.

If we're going to discuss why good requesters seem to be dwindling on mturk, why don't we also take a look at ourselves? Anyone that has ever done a HIT that had you grade another worker's submissions can tell you that most of the results that no or low qual requesters are getting are absolutely garbage. Then you add to that, the hostility that requesters often face when they attempt to reject said garbage. Mturk is not an easy place to get quality results unless you've been here for a long time and really know how to work with quals and stuff.

I can't argue with that. When I was working on the Research Task Hits a couple of days ago I learned exactly how unconcerned some other workers are about the guidelines for the hits. I'm not sure that justifies substandard pay from requesters. It just seems that it's a really shit storm system.

 

[Squatty]

Title: Questionnaire about Emotional Intelligence to be tested; Project A | PANDA Requester: cut-e mTurk [AYL89L70SAA5B] (TO) TO Ratings: ★★★★★ 5.00 Communicativity ★★★★★ 4.75 Generosity ★★★★★ 5.00 Fairness ★★★★★ 3.50 Promptness Number of Reviews: 6 | TOS Flags: 1 Submit a new TO review Description: an online test has to be completed seriously Time: 60 minutes HITs Available: 1 Reward: $7.00 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is not less than 50;HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 98

 

[j0e]

Title: Questionnaire about Emotional Intelligence to be tested; Project A | PANDA Requester: cut-e mTurk [AYL89L70SAA5B] (TO) TO Ratings: ★★★★★ 5.00 Communicativity ★★★★★ 4.75 Generosity ★★★★★ 5.00 Fairness ★★★★★ 3.50 Promptness Number of Reviews: 6 | TOS Flags: 1 Submit a new TO review Description: an online test has to be completed seriously Time: 60 minutes HITs Available: 1 Reward: $7.00 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is not less than 50;HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 98

Title: Questionnaire about Emotional Intelligence to be tested; Project B | PANDA Requester: cut-e mTurk [AYL89L70SAA5B] (TO) TO Ratings: ☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Communicativity ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.75 Generosity ☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Fairness ☭☭☭☭☭ 3.50 Promptness Number of Reviews: 6 (Submit a new TO rating for this requester) Description: an online test has to be completed seriously Time: 60 minutes Hits Available: 1 Reward: $7.00 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is not less than 50; HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 98

 

[Christa]

Anyone that has ever done a HIT that had you grade another worker's submissions can tell you that most of the results that no or low qual requesters are getting are absolutely garbage.

I agree, I've seen total gibberish submitted. It's astonishing.

 

[Blue]

The fee hike was a bit more complex than that. Before July of last year, all non-masters HITs had a fee of 10% of whatever that HIT paid. Masters HITs had a fee of 30%. That 300% increase only applied to HITs that had 10 or more of the same HIT in a group (typically surveys). Everything else non-masters was increased from 10% to 20%. Masters fees were dropped from 30% to 25%. The reality of the whole fee hike situation wasn't as bad as many made it out to be.

If we're going to discuss why good requesters seem to be dwindling on mturk, why don't we also take a look at ourselves? Anyone that has ever done a HIT that had you grade another worker's submissions can tell you that most of the results that no or low qual requesters are getting are absolutely garbage. Then you add to that, the hostility that requesters often face when they attempt to reject said garbage. Mturk is not an easy place to get quality results unless you've been here for a long time and really know how to work with quals and stuff.

Unfortunately, my time consulting with requesters showed exactly that. The number of people who put absolutely no effort into the work, or straight up scammed was disproportionately high compared to the people who actually appeared to be making an effort to complete the work correctly. Trying to reject even the worst cases of scamming led to massive dumps of emails (from significantly more people than actually got rejected... some interesting conclusions can be drawn from that) which were absolutely full of the worst kind of shit you can say to someone... just straight up ridiculousness like "i hope you have small children who get cancer so you can watch them die painfully" type of stuff.

Honestly... it's hard to develop anything but a negative attitude about the workforce.

 

[MerryLou]

Title: 6 min survey for $0.6(~ 6 minutes) | PANDA Requester: Hengchen [AVFDQWCSJSN3H] (TO) TO Ratings: ★★★★★ 5.00 Communicativity ★★★★★ 4.70 Generosity ★★★★★ 5.00 Fairness ★★★★★ 5.00 Promptness Number of Reviews: 30 | TOS Flags: 0 Submit a new TO review Description: Please take 6 min survey for $0.60 Time: 50 minutes HITs Available: 9 Reward: $0.60 Qualifications: 4892e332 has not been granted;Total approved HITs is not less than 500;Exc: [-875237836-12477] has not been granted;HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 95;Location is one of: US

 

[GenericPear]

i got both of them but we can only do 1

 

[repingel]

It said 6 IIRC

The one I opened said 9 days. :thumbdown:

 

[SquishyFluffkin]

i got both of them but we can only do 1

lemme get one

 

[thedorchannel]

all I have to say about the requester thing, is that I personally believe its mostly Amazon's fault for rasing their prices a WHOLE LOT with no real reason or significant improvements to the site.

I don't believe most turkers are out to screw requesters over.

 

[MerryLou]

Title: 2-minute survey for $.20 | PANDA Requester: The Wharton School [ABIUW8FBC3EE7] (TO) TO Ratings: ★★★★★ 4.06 Communicativity ★★★★★ 3.93 Generosity ★★★★★ 4.63 Fairness ★★★★★ 4.58 Promptness Number of Reviews: 341 | TOS Flags: 2 Submit a new TO review Description: Complete a 2-minute research survey about judgment and decision making for $.20 Time: 30 minutes HITs Available: 1 Reward: $0.20 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is not less than 100;HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 95;Location is US

 

[GenericPear]

lemme get one

lol i threw back b bb

 

[aveline]

After all, I can work from home with it. Isn't that a lifestyle people should at least be willing to work a bit harder for?

Unfortunately, I think "working harder" is probably the last thing on the mind of many people who choose to work from home.

 

[GenericPear]

-(total completion time approx. 50-60 minutes)
-of 60 minutes
-

 

[Christa]

Outta here for the day, made my morning six bucks... lol. HOpefully I can pick up some stuff tonight. Have a great day!

 

[Deleted member 526]

Caltech Type Full Address (Upper & Lower Case) No USPS Abbreviations $0.10 Rejected
Some words are in all caps; please refer to instructions.


11 rejections. 87 pending. I thought we were supposed to change the usps abbreviations like RD and STE to Road and Suite. I left all the names like CHEWBACCA Street.

I read the instructions like 8 times. oh well I guess.

 

[jan]

The fee hike was a bit more complex than that. Before July of last year, all non-masters HITs had a fee of 10% of whatever that HIT paid. Masters HITs had a fee of 30%. That 300% increase only applied to HITs that had 10 or more of the same HIT in a group (typically surveys). Everything else non-masters was increased from 10% to 20%. Masters fees were dropped from 30% to 25%. The reality of the whole fee hike situation wasn't as bad as many made it out to be.

If we're going to discuss why good requesters seem to be dwindling on mturk, why don't we also take a look at ourselves? Anyone that has ever done a HIT that had you grade another worker's submissions can tell you that most of the results that no or low qual requesters are getting are absolutely garbage. Then you add to that, the hostility that requesters often face when they attempt to reject said garbage. Mturk is not an easy place to get quality results unless you've been here for a long time and really know how to work with quals and stuff.

I agree.....but the fault is not quite ourselves (I think). I still feel like it's the fault of the stars - well, requesters and ultimately amazon. It's their (amazon's) job to tell them how to get good work (qual things).

Yes, turkers can suck. But it's the game - I think we're the silly guys on the factory floor who don't get adequate breaks and aren't given holiday pay. So, if some turkers play the board that they are given, well, that's the best option.

That happens not to be me as a person (I can't scam people and I HAVE to share my bonus with that unnamed and probably nonexistent turker). But if you step back and look at the board, it's Amazon's board and they could fix this quickly. I think they don't get it and don't care.

(jan, who always blames Jeff)

 

[LowCalCalzone]

Title: Questionnaire about Emotional Intelligence to be tested; Project B | PANDA Requester: cut-e mTurk [AYL89L70SAA5B] (TO) TO Ratings: ☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Communicativity ☭☭☭☭☭ 4.75 Generosity ☭☭☭☭☭ 5.00 Fairness ☭☭☭☭☭ 3.50 Promptness Number of Reviews: 6 (Submit a new TO rating for this requester) Description: an online test has to be completed seriously Time: 60 minutes Hits Available: 1 Reward: $7.00 Qualifications: Total approved HITs is not less than 50; HIT approval rate (%) is not less than 98

Someone do these and get back with a time kthx

 

[Mecca]

Unfortunately, I think "working harder" is probably the last thing on the mind of many people who choose to work from home.

That's a bit misleading plenty of people who work from home work hard. I think if turk had better pay and a better way of weeding out scam workers then the workforce would be better.